Post by: Shinomori_Aoshi on May 17, 2005, 07:23:02 PM
To find out more about these revelations go to IGN (http://ps3.ign.com/) or Gamespot (http://ps3.ign.com/)
I think the PS3 design looks pretty sleek and impressive, but the controller looks waaay too big. The Revolution doesn't look particularly great, but appearance has never been Nintendo's finest area of expertise.
What does anyone else think about the newest additions to the console market? Will they be as successful as their predecessors?
Post by: Osmose on May 17, 2005, 07:37:08 PM
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 17, 2005, 07:38:36 PM
Post by: Shinomori_Aoshi on May 18, 2005, 07:07:29 AM
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Xbox 360 *orgasms*
Hehe It'll be interesting to see just how powerful the Xbox 360 is, and how it matches up to its two competitors. I've read that graphically, PS3 has an edge, which is surprising after the power of the original Xbox.
Post by: Osmose on May 18, 2005, 09:44:51 AM
Post by: WarxePB on May 18, 2005, 01:01:30 PM
Well, actually, I'm considering getting a PS3. It depends on what kind of titles the consoles have planned at launch.
Post by: Drace on May 18, 2005, 02:26:46 PM
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as well as titles for their new machines such as Devil May Cry 4 and Tekken 6.
Who cares about those two games, MGS4, that's the game what is worth waiting!
Post by: Snake Eater on May 18, 2005, 03:58:40 PM
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 18, 2005, 04:11:36 PM
Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on May 18, 2005, 04:21:06 PM
FFVII remake for the PS3, perhaps? I'm hoping.
Post by: Almeidaboo on May 18, 2005, 05:00:15 PM
Oh, oh: 7 wireless controlers playing at the same fricking time...oh well.
Post by: Dragonium on May 18, 2005, 05:31:14 PM
Post by: GhostClown on May 18, 2005, 06:02:16 PM
Post by: Drace on May 18, 2005, 06:10:10 PM
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PS3 is dropping some huge titles when it first comes out, so it'll probably drown out the other systems. Even though, all three new systems and even the new GamBoy look pretty sexy..
*Looks at the gameboy* OMG *drools*
Snake Eater: It's good that they're brining the old ones back but didn't Vamp die or did he just fell in the water and survived?
Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on May 18, 2005, 06:45:54 PM
e3 here I come!
Post by: Leon_1990 on May 18, 2005, 06:54:50 PM
:p Devil may cry 4!!! OMFG!!!, i guess ill be buying PS3 and n.rev.
btw, has anyone else noticed how shamefully microsoft copies sony?
Post by: WingZero on May 18, 2005, 07:00:14 PM
Post by: Drace on May 18, 2005, 07:41:56 PM
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nintendo rev here!
:p Devil may cry 4!!! OMFG!!!, i guess ill be buying PS3 and n.rev.
btw, has anyone else noticed how shamefully microsoft copies sony?
Why? I haven't noticed it yet. Explain yourself.
Post by: WingZero on May 18, 2005, 07:46:09 PM
Post by: Osmose on May 18, 2005, 07:46:46 PM
I will admit that PS3 has it's share of hits. I've always respected Playstation for their dominance over Nintendo. Well, then again, Nintendo is nothing but an aging company putting all of it's money on a few good games. Nintendo just doesn't have a mass of decent games to fuel it, and is now going on with nothing but a few decent games and the old, near-death series from the Nintendo days.
Also, what is so special about a Smaller GBA? There's NOTHING new! NOTHING BUT IT'S SMALLER! THE GBA POCKET! I don't understand how you can even consider wasting your money on it.
And I still stand by my statement that they are nearly even. Yes, the numbers may say that the PS3 is like 12 times more powerful, and the Xbox 360 only 6 or so, but Xbox was a more powerful console in the first place, so it evens out.
If Microsoft is so evil, why are you using Windows, huh? Shut up.
Post by: GhostClown on May 18, 2005, 07:52:06 PM
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If Microsoft is so evil, why are you using Windows, huh? Shut up.
No one said it was evil, they just can't produce good games. :P
Post by: WingZero on May 18, 2005, 07:52:57 PM
and by the way youre hiting only nintendo you din't say anything about the PS3 remeber the XBOX 360 change a bit it can still make fire.
Post by: Razor on May 18, 2005, 09:52:34 PM
I just saw that FF7 Trailer, and now I'm bought. Of course, I will have to get the NR for the New Zelda. Arg, I'm not made of money!
Post by: Almeidaboo on May 18, 2005, 11:31:27 PM
Post by: Snake Eater on May 19, 2005, 12:27:42 AM
Post by: MrMister on May 19, 2005, 12:46:56 AM
*goes and plays ping pong*
Wheeeeeee
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If Microsoft is so evil, why are you using Windows, huh? Shut up.
When did you get seniority exactly? Uhm, never. Go away.
Post by: Osmose on May 19, 2005, 02:32:20 AM
Like I said, PS3 is a good match for the Xbox. I've never hated the system for anything beyond keeping down the Xbox, as it's a good system.
Wing, where did you get the idea that I hated Microsoft? I'm support the 360.
Games on the Xbox that were good, at least I liked them(not Xbox exclusives, but on the Xbox): Halo, Morrowind, Jet Set Radio Future, Fable, Ninja Gaiden, GTA, MGS 2, Splinter Cell, Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 & 2, Kung Fu Chaos, Crimson Skies...
And that's just the ones I own. Since I'm, y'know, poor an alla that. :P
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on May 19, 2005, 03:50:49 AM
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I agree with GC on the xBox suckage part. I want to play fun games, not violent ones.
Sanity, awesome.
The Revolution is here, throw off the chains of the establishment, topple the chair, light the torches and... wait, what? Does anybody know how many SEGA games are planned for the Rev? It's only a shame that they had such bad marketing with the Dreamcast, that was so much better than the PS1.
P.S. What's up with people claiming Halo as the greatest game ever? When people say that it only shows just how little games they've played.
Post by: Drace on May 19, 2005, 05:30:32 AM
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Games on the Xbox that were good, at least I liked them(not Xbox exclusives, but on the Xbox): Halo, Morrowind, Jet Set Radio Future, Fable, Ninja Gaiden, GTA, MGS 2, Splinter Cell, Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 & 2, Kung Fu Chaos, Crimson Skies...
Some of these games belong original to other consoles.
I also noticed this on the Gamecube, they just take games from the ps1 and restyle, i mean, can't Nintendo come up with there own games.
I think this is going to be a photo finish for the PS3 and the XBox 360. Nintendo will be left out of the loop.
Post by: WingZero on May 19, 2005, 05:46:08 AM
Osmose----->Wing, where did you get the idea that I hated Microsoft? I'm support the 360.
right down here
Osmose---->If Microsoft is so evil, why are you using Windows, huh? Shut up.
ME---->Can you imagine if Sony makes a program like Windos that will be the end of Microsoft.Do you want that to happend? :p
Post by: Osmose on May 19, 2005, 10:53:33 AM
And I never said anything like that. At least, the Sony making windows part, if I read it correctly.
And if you mean the "Then why are you using...." part, that is basically me telling people who whine about how windows is so bad because either A. They think it makes them look smarter or cooler, or B.They're too stupid to set up any Linux distro, and don't want to buy a Mac that they suck.
Post by: Drace on May 19, 2005, 02:32:47 PM
I think that that, the system's specification and the big titles on release will give the PS3 a big leap forward. However, the N. Rev is only going to be 4 inches wide, 2 inches tall, and .7 inches deep, so it can be brought to everywhere.
Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on May 19, 2005, 03:12:08 PM
And WingZero ruined charas!
Post by: GhostClown on May 19, 2005, 03:25:50 PM
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And WingZero ruined charas!
What? Watch what you say, man.
Post by: Petunia on May 19, 2005, 03:40:33 PM
Post by: WingZero on May 19, 2005, 04:18:41 PM
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quote: And WingZero ruined charas!
What? Watch what you say, man.
hes got a point the quote bug I don't know how it happend _veryangry_
now problem fix.
Osmose----->B.They're too stupid to set up any Linux distro, and don't want to buy a Mac that they suck.
Me-----> Dude did you read that the 360 uses Mac tech and if you don't beleve me check out the quoe from team XBOX.
teamxbox----->For Mac fans it’s a funny thing to see Microsoft using Apple hardware and that is why Macned, a Netherlands-based site devoted to Apple and the Mac world, has grabbed the very first pictures of a Xenon Development Kit.
We can’t understand a single sentence of Frisian, so the only things we were able to comprehend from the story is that the XDK is using the Power Mac dual 2.0GHz configuration with 512 MB of system memory and an ATI X800 graphics card.
We were able to confirm with our own sources that this is indeed the current XDK game developers are using to develop Xbox 360 games, which uses the Power Mac G5 chassis forged of anodized aluminum.
Post by: NeroSam on May 19, 2005, 05:30:50 PM
ya no...i hate to bring this up but...
...what made u ppl hate xbox so much? if its the size then ur lame cos its big cos it has loads of features and stuff (such as an intergrated network card and a hdd). and dont say its the controller cos they have made ones that are smaller. Plus it had the most power in the system...or is it the games tha u didnt like?
Post by: Razor on May 19, 2005, 09:39:14 PM
Just some quotes from the ff7ac.com forums
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Well unfortunately they have made it quite apparent that these are not the first signs of a ff7 remake for the PS3 (Although we all wanted it to be), so I dont think it will happen...
But there's always the possibility of it surfacing in the future...
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Just because they didn't give a hint doesn't mean they won't do it. Wouldn't that be a shocker, to release info of a FFVII remake a month before the release of the PS3?
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Exactly!! See? No need to worry guys. Just because THIS isn't a teaser for a new release of FFVII doesn't mean they won't ever remake it. They're going to have to eventually. I mean, the fans are demanding a remake. There are millions of people across the world who would love to see this game live up to its full potential and have some real graphics. I have faith in Squaresoft that one day we will see this game again in a new light.
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the fact that they showed a tech demo using Final Fantasy VII leaves me with a sour taste in my mouth. why not use Final fantasy VI? or final Fantasy VIII? The fact that they specifically chose VII to show off with is just weird. Why bother at all if they weren't working on something?
Sony will most likely pressure Square-Enix into making the FFVII remake though, seeing as Halo 3 comes out on the same day as the PS3, Sony is going to need something besides GTA6 to help move PS3's off of shelves. If FFVII is remade for PS3, Halo won't stand a chance
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That last quote is the most important, I hope you know.
Post by: WingZero on May 20, 2005, 01:04:19 AM
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ya no...i hate to bring this up but...
...what made u ppl hate xbox so much? if its the size then ur lame cos its big cos it has loads of features and stuff (such as an intergrated network card and a hdd). and dont say its the controller cos they have made ones that are smaller. Plus it had the most power in the system...or is it the games tha u didnt like?
you only live in one world right? The PS3 is the same zize as the PS2 just a bit more round like shape. the controller is the same just wireless (wow wireless no other console has it). about power the most advance techthe Cell Processor and the Blu-Ray are one step ahead of the 360 and Revo the other two consoles will depend now from theyr games and as I think of games the one wit the big titles is the PS3 the other will be revolution wit Zelda I'll bet that will be one of theyr frist games.
edit: and did any one notice the big SLAP square gives to the 360 FF11 for the 360 ( one the game that ruend FF series tha game should been FF Online) and FF13 exclusive for the PS3 now thats a low blow.
Post by: Osmose on May 20, 2005, 03:03:21 AM
But an Xbox running on Mac hardware?! I must research this...
...and have found that Xbox is not going to use mac hardware. Every article I found states that they're using G5s because they are similar to the Xbox in their hardware setup, specifically the three 3.2 GHz processors. So yes, they will be similar, but not Mac hardware.
And as for why I'm afraid of Mac in the first place, it's because Mac products pretty much only work with Mac products. It limits itself to nothing but the company's own crap, which, although they work pretty well together, are nothing compared to the open-endedness of PCs.
Hell, my own computer runs an ATI videocard (3200+ 128MB Radeon), it's not a Mac-exclusive feature or anything.
Which brings me to my final point. If the Xbox is so obsolete compared to the PS3, why hasn't it stomped it out yet?
And remakes are nothing but a company's attempts to gobble up more money from strange, confused children who believe that, if a game has better graphics and a few extra features, it's worth the $50 they're wasting for recycled code. (Exception: Mario 64 DS. It gives me something to do in school. ;) )
Post by: WingZero on May 20, 2005, 03:11:30 AM
Post by: Weregnome on May 20, 2005, 06:43:56 AM
Post by: Razor on May 20, 2005, 11:42:42 AM
Post by: Drace on May 20, 2005, 01:04:39 PM
Post by: NeroSam on May 20, 2005, 03:50:25 PM
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ya no...i hate to bring this up but...
...what made u ppl hate xbox so much? if its the size then ur lame cos its big cos it has loads of features and stuff (such as an intergrated network card and a hdd). and dont say its the controller cos they have made ones that are smaller. Plus it had the most power in the system...or is it the games tha u didnt like?
you only live in one world right? The PS3 is the same zize as the PS2 just a bit more round like shape. the controller is the same just wireless (wow wireless no other console has it). about power the most advance techthe Cell Processor and the Blu-Ray are one step ahead of the 360 and Revo the other two consoles will depend now from theyr games and as I think of games the one wit the big titles is the PS3 the other will be revolution wit Zelda I'll bet that will be one of theyr frist games.
edit: and did any one notice the big SLAP square gives to the 360 FF11 for the 360 ( one the game that ruend FF series tha game should been FF Online) and FF13 exclusive for the PS3 now thats a low blow.
huh?? i no all of tha already and tha has nothin to do wid ma question. im only askin y ppl hate xbox (as in the first xbox) so much
Post by: Almeidaboo on May 20, 2005, 04:34:07 PM
Post by: WingZero on May 20, 2005, 06:04:08 PM
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huh?? i no all of tha already and tha has nothin to do wid ma question. im only askin y ppl hate xbox (as in the first xbox) so much[/B]
no one hates it everyones is saying that it doesn't have enough good games the look is horrible and whats the point of buying a console to have only 7 or 8 good games _sweat_ I have more than 25 good games from the PS2 6 from the XBOX and 12 from the Game Cube.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 20, 2005, 06:18:36 PM
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To bad it was just to show what the PS3 can do. It would be fun to play FFVII withouth the crappy block hands and such things.
Crappy? CRAPPY?
I personally thing those square hands made FF7 and better graphics would most likely ruin it.
Post by: Osmose on May 20, 2005, 07:55:39 PM
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But an Xbox running on Mac hardware?! I must research this...
...and have found that Xbox is not going to use mac hardware. Every article I found states that they're using G5s because they are similar to the Xbox in their hardware setup, specifically the three 3.2 GHz processors. So yes, they will be similar, but not Mac hardware.
Post by: Neonlare on May 20, 2005, 08:04:39 PM
http://www.ps3land.com/
mmm, 1.8, I was wrong...
Ahh, here it is, I was wrong on the first post though...
How powerful will the PS3 be?
On paper, the PS3 is 2x more powerful than the Xbox 360 and 15x more powerful than the Nintendo Revolution. It has a processing capacity of 2.18 TFLOPS, which is put into context when you realise the FASTEST computers in existence can only do 36 Terraflops. It is said to be 35x more powerful than the PlayStation 2 is.
Post by: karl3 on May 20, 2005, 08:11:52 PM
Post by: Neonlare on May 20, 2005, 08:12:53 PM
They said the Tech Demo is not comfirmation that FF7 Remake will come out.
Still I hope it does...
Post by: Osmose on May 20, 2005, 08:27:45 PM
Post by: WingZero on May 21, 2005, 03:12:18 AM
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEEuEplpEAdQIZjXID.php
Post by: Osmose on May 21, 2005, 04:40:40 AM
Post by: Drace on May 21, 2005, 10:02:03 AM
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quote: To bad it was just to show what the PS3 can do. It would be fun to play FFVII withouth the crappy block hands and such things.
Crappy? CRAPPY?
I personally thing those square hands made FF7 and better graphics would most likely ruin it.
I think that if they leave the story line, and all events the same and only change the graphics it would be much better.
Post by: Moosetroop11 on May 21, 2005, 12:36:52 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Moosetroop11
quote: To bad it was just to show what the PS3 can do. It would be fun to play FFVII withouth the crappy block hands and such things.
Crappy? CRAPPY?
I personally thing those square hands made FF7 and better graphics would most likely ruin it.
I think that if they leave the story line, and all events the same and only change the graphics it would be much better.
Maybe... I guess I'm just a die hard FF7 fan. I wanna be buried with it, or burned with it when I die :p
Post by: WingZero on May 21, 2005, 04:10:30 PM
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I don't think you understand what I am saying. The Xbox will NOT use Mac hardware. I could care less if the dev kit does, as I'm not going to be the one using the crap. A picture made on a mac isn't any worse than the exact same one made on a PC. But the programs used will be different, usually.
yes but the Development Kit is an accessorie of it like it or not anuced by Microsft people and you can't say no to that.
And about Final Fantasy I know the compani say they wont do a remake but who knows at least they make a video to remember and just like Final Fantasy 6 is coming for Game Boy maye in the next Sony console FF7 returns. ;)
Post by: Osmose on May 21, 2005, 04:18:13 PM
And the Development Kit isn't an "Accessory" to the system. It's a computer that designers use to test their compiled code on while developing a game. It, most likely, has documents on it about filetype specifications, default graphics functions, and other nifty things that the developers will take and use. It probably also has the final compiler to make the CD that will be mass produced for the games.
An accessory to the system would be something like a screen you can stick on top to play games without a TV.
Post by: WingZero on May 21, 2005, 04:35:02 PM
the develpment kithas something to do wit since Mac is the best in picture and music edition they created the Development Kit to create the XBOX 360 games am I correct?
Post by: Osmose on May 21, 2005, 07:29:35 PM
Post by: WingZero on May 21, 2005, 08:05:44 PM
Post by: Osmose on May 22, 2005, 03:52:25 AM
Post by: WingZero on May 22, 2005, 06:04:58 AM
If your answer is yes then its over you don't have to answer me back if you want you just admit theres Mac Thech being use and those are the Games you play.
Post by: Petunia on May 22, 2005, 08:17:28 AM
Post by: Razor on May 22, 2005, 10:57:29 AM
Post by: WingZero on May 22, 2005, 03:11:53 PM
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A CD contains software. it itself is not software. it is nothing.You are so brilliant :bend:
if thats the case then the console is nothing is that what your saying Razor? Software is something, software is thech what is inside the CD is what you play it doesn't come from the controller unless you playing one of those new plug and play games but thats not the point here the point is the CD's are part of this console there fore it count as a very important part of it.(and the CD count as both because its a part of the console plus it contains data wich its software) and I was thinking someone of the gamers that read about all games knew that. :|
Post by: Osmose on May 22, 2005, 03:16:35 PM
Dispute: Will the Xbox use hardware made by Macintosh?
Wingzero: The Xbox Dev Kit is a mac.
Moose: What?! Lemme look this up.... ah, the Xbox itself won't use max tech, so I'm good.
Wingzero: *link*
Moose: No, no, I mean that the Xbox itself, the on that you buy, isn't using it. Screw the dev kit.
Wingzero: The dev kit is an accessory to it and like it or not Microsoft announced it's macintosh.
Moose: The dev kit isn't an "accessory" to the system. Besides, I am only saying the XBOX 360 isn't mac hardware.
WingZero: You even say it there! The dev kit will make the games and the dev kits a mac, right?
Moose: Yes, but where do I say that the Dev Kit won't use mac hardware? I am only talking about the Xbox 360 itself!
WingZero: The CDs aren't hardware?
Moose: No, they aren't. The hardware is the machine. And I repeat that a picture(or game) made on a mac is no different from the exact same picture(or game) made on a PC.
WingZero: You answer your own question. Your games will be made by Macintosh and not Microsoft. If you agree with me than it's over and don't even reply.
And now, my response: What the hell? Do I have to say it a third time? A GAME MADE ON A MACINTOSH IS NO DIFFERENT IN THE FINAL PRODUCT FROM THE SAME GAME MADE FOR THE SAME CONSOLE ON A PC!
And Macintosh is NOT making the games. The game developers are. Just because they're supplying the dev kits doesn't mean they're there directing how to make the game. That's up to the developers.
Post by: WingZero on May 22, 2005, 03:20:14 PM
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A GAME MADE ON A MACINTOSHand you keep saying it the games are made in a Mac don't you see your hiting your self.
Edit: and it its up to develpers and I Macintosh is NOT making the games it a Special PC from Macintosh is NOT making the games
and I have to hit you again sorry no hard feelings a quote from Team XBOX yes theam XBOX the ones that where there when the 360 came up.
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We were able to confirm with our own sources that this is indeed the current XDK game developers are using to develop Xbox 360 games, which uses the Power Mac G5 chassis forged of anodized aluminum.
thats proves my pointin wich you can't say its not true don't cry I know its hard but thats the way it is. sorry to all Microsoft fans but hey Mac is the best in Picture and sound editing its good to see two companies togeter ;)
Post by: karl3 on May 22, 2005, 03:31:59 PM
Post by: Osmose on May 22, 2005, 04:15:14 PM
I will say it for the 15th time because your dumbass mind can't comprehend this fact: THE XBOX 360 WILL NOT BE MADE BY MACINTOSH.
Post by: Drace on May 22, 2005, 04:39:02 PM
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just for all u ff7 non belivers of it notcoming out may i say that i found a site saying its release 2007
Linky?
Post by: WingZero on May 22, 2005, 04:46:59 PM
Post by: Razor on May 24, 2005, 03:00:02 AM
I completely understand this.
Moose is saying, (some of) the games for XBOX (if not all) will be made with Mac software. The XBOX itself will NOT run on Mac software.
Games made by Mac software can be played on nonMac things.
As far as I care, that's right.
WingZero is saying, I am brilliant.
As far as I care, that's right.
When I said it was nothing, I mean the CD itself is nothing. It's just a carrier of information.
Also, I wouldn't trust Karl3's source. It probably saw the trailer without anything else and just thinks that FF7 is being remade. At least wait before he posts a link till you make your mind up.