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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Grandy on June 04, 2005, 07:56:37 PM
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Euthanasia, the act of killing someone when they lives are worse than death, many time because they ask you to do it. Do you agree with this?
I do.
I think your life is the only think that is truly yours, you can put an end on it when you want, if you wnat, and in the way you want.
But if you can't? If you can't move your arms, and want to die, 'cause your life is boring, you feel pain everywhere in your body, you can't eat, only survives because a doctor have to put vitamins in your arm, all what you can do is talk. And you ask the doctor to let you die.
Its your right. Its your life. Its what you want him to do. But he won't. Why? Because he would be arrested. Why? Because he killed you. Why? Because you asked.
Then you'll have to live with pain, suffering, hating your life until you can't talk, think, see, feel or listen. You KNOW death is better than that. But, in this case, your life isn't yours, bcause you can't choose anything.
They stole your life.
Thats my question, its not only about euthanasia, the question is:
Until when is our lives truly ours?
I would like to have the right to die.
And you?
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Originally posted by Grandy
Then you'll have to live with pain, suffering, hating your life until you can't talk, think, see, feel or listen. You KNOW death is better than that.
Do you? Of course you don't. Unless you've died. Then you do.
It's an interesting issue, but suicide rarely has no effect on those around the... uh... suicidee. Though those fluent in futurama (I'm looking at you, Razor.) will be familiar with the "Suicide Booth". An idea for the future?
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Label it any way you want... "Mercy Killing", "Self-Defense", or "Euthanasia", its all the same... killing.
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If ther person asked for it, then I guess I'm ok with it. Matters what their condition is.
If ther person is unable to ask for it, then leave them the **** alone. What if you were fine/perfectly happy but you just were immobile for a little while?
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Label it any way you want... "Mercy Killing", "Self-Defense", or "Euthanasia", its all the same... killing.
Euthanasia is when you WANT to dye, or it has been proved taht you'll not wake in the next 30 years(and you already has 80, so you'll die before you wake up anyway)
There is a difference beetwen killing for fun or in self-defense.
Do you? Of course you don't. Unless you've died. Then you do.
Jesus already died and came back to say its better than here.
Plus, what do you have to lose? You can't walk, smell, fell, listen, see, you're already dead.
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If they wish to die sure I'll do it quick give me a gun...(or whatever or method of death is...)
See you in whatever is after this! :frag:
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I didn't vote since I'm both yes and no. If you're in pain and in so bad condition that you can't even commit suicide then it'd probably be the best just to die, but on the other hand it's really difficult if not impossible to proof that the person asked you to kill him/her.
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Sephy
On the other hand it's really difficult if not impossible to proof that the person asked you to kill him/her.
You could just get it in writing, or videotaped if they can't write. But if they can't talk or write, then it would have to be up to the family. I don't think that the courts should be able to intervene in this situation, like in the Terry Schiavo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Schiavo) case.
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It's probably best it wasn't up to the family in the Terry case, all they really cared about is getting some money from the husband who won a big lawsuit.
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Originally posted by AsakuraHao2004
Label it any way you want... "Mercy Killing", "Self-Defense", or "Euthanasia", its all the same... killing.
Rare is the case where I agree with Asa XP but indeed.
I dunno though, if I saw someone suffering really really badly, that it was obvious they would die no matter what, then if I was asked.. I trully don't know. However if someone asks me to kill them, your a moron if you think I'll say 'yes' and go ahead. Example, if some guy lost a girlfirend and it's goes all psycho and wants me to kill him (even tho he can do it himself) I won't; neither i will nor let him kill himself. But sincerely I dun think I would, nor I think is healthy.
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I vote Yes. If a person is suffering and wants out of their misery, let them.
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Originally posted by Sephiroth rocks
I didn't vote since I'm both yes and no. If you're in pain and in so bad condition that you can't even commit suicide then it'd probably be the best just to die, but on the other hand it's really difficult if not impossible to proof that the person asked you to kill him/her.
Thats why I think euthanasia should be legal. Then you could bring someone to see iut and proof you're innocent
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One of the latest Clint Eastwood movies was exactly about that. Was it Million Dollar Baby or the previous one? The movie clearly took a side on the subject and was generaly for euthanasia.
It's a touchy subject, that I feel a movie best helps us discuss about it, lol. I can see both sides of the medal, discussion at this point would be more important than having a firm stance on the subject.
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I'm not for any type of killing. I only think it's necessary if it's the only option, but of course there are infinite amounts of options.
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"Killing isn't everything, it's the only thing"
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Originally posted by Snake Eater
I vote Yes. If a person is suffering and wants out of their misery, let them.
Agreed.
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Originally posted by Red Giant
Though those fluent in futurama (I'm looking at you, Razor.) will be familiar with the "Suicide Booth".
I'm looking at you, too. I'm always looking.
Originally posted by Grandy
Jesus already died and came back to say its better than here.
Hear that? Jesus promotes suicide!
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I'm all for euthanasia, providing that the person can prove they want to die. The only problem is if clever murderers find loopholes in the law and find ways to class their killings as 'euthanasia'. You know it will happen.
Though those fluent in futurama (I'm looking at you, Razor.) will be familiar with the "Suicide Booth".
"You have selected - slow and painful."
"Good choice!"
:D
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Originally posted by Moosetroop11
I'm all for euthanasia, providing that the person can prove they want to die. The only problem is if clever murderers find loopholes in the law and find ways to class their killings as 'euthanasia'. You know it will happen.
Ah, so it boils down to whether or not it would work in society.
As a bare-bones concept I support it, but legalising it would open the floodgates for these kinds of murders.
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If they want to murder, they would, with or without euthanasia, after that, they pay the police or something to escape.
This happens a lot.
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Originally posted by Grandy
If they want to murder, they would, with or without euthanasia, after that, they pay the police or something to escape.
This happens a lot.
You honestly believe it's that easy to get away with murder? You make it sound like an everyday job.
Euthanasia opens up a new option. A murderer could doctor evidence of the victim's consent and kill them, and if he/she did it right, he/she would get away with it.
And it would obviously be cheaper than paying the police.
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As a bare-bones concept I support it
*Snigger*
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You honestly believe it's that easy to get away with murder?
Well, you're right.
But I don't nthink you can proof someone incuncious wants to die, unless he/she wrote a letter or something.
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Pre law : you need to run to Mexico, fake an accident or pay the police
post law : you need to write a fake letter saying the person wanted to die. Remember almost all murders are from people that know eachother. You just say "as a friend, he asked me for a service..."
People make fake money, how hard would a fake letter be.
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When you start on your homocide string, I think's quite easy to tell that you are going to jail fast.
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Originally posted by Blademon
Pre law : you need to run to Mexico, fake an accident or pay the police
post law : you need to write a fake letter saying the person wanted to die. Remember almost all murders are from people that know eachother. You just say "as a friend, he asked me for a service..."
People make fake money, how hard would a fake letter be.
If you just want to kill him, just take him, his closest friend and relatives to Mexico and kill em 1 by 1.
That's what I would do if I lives in the US
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I think if you the person involved wants to die and there is no way around the horrible life they are having, then they should be allowed to die peacefully, assisted suicide should be fine too, but i am not sure if i could be the one giving the suicidee the means of killing themselves
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I would only aprove it if it's an overdosis of painkillers