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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: Osmose on June 06, 2005, 04:42:24 AM

Title: Mistreatment of others and FFT
Post by: Osmose on June 06, 2005, 04:42:24 AM

http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=11214&forumid=11&catid=4&page=1

And you people tell me I'M mean?

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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 06, 2005, 04:44:59 AM

That's not being mean. People just don't care enough to candy coat the comment "It sucks" .

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 06, 2005, 04:51:02 AM

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That's not being mean. People just don't care enough to candy coat the comment "It sucks" .

Pretty much. But yeah you ARE mean. =P

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Post by: Osmose on June 06, 2005, 04:52:12 AM

Well, why should I have to "candy coat" the comment "Hey, stop being an asshat?"

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Post by: Snake Eater on June 06, 2005, 05:04:26 AM

That guy devered those comments, and yes, you are mean.

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Post by: carmen on June 06, 2005, 05:31:19 AM

yeah sometimes we're all mean, so what if he wants to create a fan game, and those people aren't carrying their insults in there sigs. So no need to create a whole thread about it man.

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Post by: blackskullwarlock on June 06, 2005, 12:20:16 PM

Being mean is different from being realistic. Fan games sucks(most) and Charas is like an anti-fan game forum...that explains the crazyness of that thread.

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Post by: WarxePB on June 06, 2005, 12:49:06 PM

It was still not necessary for everyone to post the same thing over again without even offering advice on how to make it better.

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Post by: charaman on June 06, 2005, 02:30:56 PM

well bridgeman is being more an ***hole than you. I havent seen a post by him that isnt a flame.

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Post by: Drace on June 06, 2005, 03:42:08 PM

Did I missed something?

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Post by: Grandy on June 06, 2005, 03:59:13 PM

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Did I missed something?

 Oh, yes, Snake Eater and Osmose started fighting and I won 3 gil in the bets already, mostly think that Osmose is acting wrong, 'cause Snake at least asked for sorry, and Osmose don't want to accept.

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Post by: Drace on June 06, 2005, 04:21:08 PM

So becaue of that, you dress like Osmose? (Black mage act)

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Post by: Grandy on June 06, 2005, 04:25:38 PM

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So becaue of that, you dress like Osmose? (Black mage act)

 No, I just got tired of Thiefs, I'll go turn back later, when I get tired of BMs

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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on June 06, 2005, 04:32:01 PM

I'm proud of what I said.

Would you rather we lie, and make the poor guy think he has something good when he dosent? Besides, no one really just up and flamed the guy, we were giving our honest opinons on his shitty game.

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Post by: Drace on June 06, 2005, 04:33:23 PM

Oh, ok.
Anyhoe, who's the bad guy?

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Post by: Osmose on June 06, 2005, 04:34:01 PM

And I was giving my honest opinion about Snake Eater's opinion, but I'm wrong. Hmmm.

Oh, and Grandy saw the light and realized that Counter Magic is a much better support ability than any skills the Thief has. :p

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Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 06, 2005, 04:45:10 PM

Hmm. I didn't post anything because I didn't want to labour the point. I read the thread, though.

And yes, Osmose, you are mean. Just read your post in the 'Post a photo of yourself' thread, for Christ's sake! :D

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Post by: Almeidaboo on June 06, 2005, 05:13:13 PM

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Originally posted by Osmose
And I was giving my honest opinion about Snake Eater's opinion, but I'm wrong. Hmmm.

Oh, and Grandy saw the light and realized that Counter Magic is a much better support ability than any skills the Thief has. :p

Still, most of your comments on things are rude...You know I don´t have anything against you, but that´s pretty much the truth...

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Post by: Grandy on June 06, 2005, 07:15:53 PM

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Originally posted by Osmose
And I was giving my honest opinion about Snake Eater's opinion, but I'm wrong. Hmmm.

Oh, and Grandy saw the light and realized that Counter Magic is a much better support ability than any skills the Thief has. :p

 Black Magic.
 And yes, but nothing is better than a Any High in a mountain field

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Post by: White Dwarf on June 06, 2005, 07:18:29 PM

okeay, moose is mean, FACT, but i really think it suits him, and he should keep at it if he likes, and that game, he like, acting like my brotehr damon, he deserved to be told, its crap, dont do it, and dont give away everything in the first post, simple

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Post by: Osmose on June 06, 2005, 07:56:27 PM

Support ability. Conter Magic allows a black mage to counter an attack with, well, magic. Best counter in the game, IMO.

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Post by: Grandy on June 06, 2005, 08:05:47 PM

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Support ability. Conter Magic allows a black mage to counter an attack with, well, magic. Best counter in the game, IMO.

 I only counters Magic. And it doens't work in the last boss

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Post by: Razor on June 06, 2005, 09:08:46 PM

Oh come on! The thread was deleted? Will anyone tell me in grissly detail what was on the other side of that link?

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Post by: WarxePB on June 06, 2005, 09:14:06 PM

Razor: FF7Rules made an FF7 fangame thread. Everyone was being rude and saying "This game really sucks" and the like without offering any advice on how to fix it.

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Post by: Razor on June 06, 2005, 09:22:11 PM

Did it suck? Why did it suck?

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Post by: Darkfox on June 06, 2005, 09:33:08 PM

As I remember the graphics didn't fit together and the style was odd.

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Post by: charaman on June 06, 2005, 10:04:28 PM

and the synopsis didnt really make any sense at all.

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Post by: SaiKar on June 06, 2005, 10:57:17 PM

It DID suck.

Lots of people said such. Some were nice about it, some were rude about it, and most fell in the middle somewhere.

ff7rules came back and made an explosive post telling everyone to die, among other more biological things that the profanity filter caught.

A few people took his side and got on everyone's case for being mean.

I told ff7rules not to make any most posts like that.

ff7rules said something along the lines of "oh, I'm sooo scared!"

And that's all I know, because the thread was deleted, presumably by ff7rules himself, before I got back to it again.

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Post by: MrMister on June 06, 2005, 11:00:17 PM

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Support ability. Conter Magic allows a black mage to counter an attack with, well, magic. Best counter in the game, IMO.

Hamedo rocked Counter Magic, dude. I beat the last boss because of it, even though it's one of the earliest skills in the game. Monk and Ninja are two unappreciated FFT jobs..

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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 06, 2005, 11:01:16 PM

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It DID suck.

Lots of people said such. Some were nice about it, some were rude about it, and most fell in the middle somewhere.

ff7rules came back and made an explosive post telling everyone to die, among other more biological things that the profanity filter caught.

A few people took his side and got on everyone's case for being mean.

I told ff7rules not to make any most posts like that.

ff7rules said something along the lines of "oh, I'm sooo scared!"

And that's all I know, because the thread was deleted, presumably by ff7rules himself, before I got back to it again.

Members can't delete their own post. It must have been some prissy mod who thought "wow, flame thread, delete it". Such threads need to be LOCKED, not DELETED. After a day, delete. This way people know the reason why it has been locked and deleted.

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Post by: SaiKar on June 06, 2005, 11:08:18 PM

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Members can't delete their own post. It must have been some prissy mod who thought "wow, flame thread, delete it"

Yes, they can.

For the proof, I refer you to this: http://charas-project.net/forum/admin/0_control.html
Yes, this is a really long document. Srcoll down to the bottom.

You may notice that while Darfox deleted a lot of posts in a different thread today, no moderator or admin has been tracked with deleting a topic started by ff7rocks. The only alternative is is that he deleted it himself, which is why it is not tracked.

But thanks for playing.

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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 06, 2005, 11:43:06 PM

In that case ff7rules is a prissy whiner and should leave now and never come back.

Yes, I am mean, boo ****ing hoo. So what?

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Post by: Almeidaboo on June 07, 2005, 01:06:06 AM

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In that case ff7rules is a prissy whiner and should leave now and never come back.

Yes, I am mean, boo ******* hoo. So what?

Why the frenzy-rage-rush? Did anyone cast bersek on you (dude, this´just nerd talk....I´m a nerd, so what am I talking about?)?

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Post by: Darkfox on June 07, 2005, 01:12:23 AM

Yep, he must have done it himself because the only things I remember is cleaning up that mess in Ian's thread, by request, and unlocking it when I was done. Oh yeah, I had to lock it before then. So yeah FF7 must have deleted it. Hmmm... though I was thinking one of the other mods did it but seeing the log, guess not.

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Post by: Osmose on June 07, 2005, 11:48:38 AM

Monks are awesome too, but my devotion to magic draws me to mages more than them.

As for ff7rules, I remember him flipping out, but I don't remember him saying "Oh I'm so scared." He asked his thread to be deleted earlier within the thread, so somebody probably said "you can delete your own posts" and he did so.

But still. There were two pages of people saying "It sucks." Overkill, no? Even if it was *that* bad you should have the prudency to know someone's going to be pissed when they keep reading over and over "Wow, this is crap." Without anyone even SUGGESTING something(well, I think someone said get better graphics).

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Post by: Weregnome on June 07, 2005, 12:14:33 PM

u know, I really liked Knight and Holy Knight. I don't know, I mean I loved em but I didn't use erm alot. Black Mage was gr8, so was Monk. Ninja was soooo good.

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Post by: Osmose on June 07, 2005, 01:04:07 PM

The only thing knights had going for them was their HP. Braks were stupid when you could steal equipment.

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Post by: CoolZidane on June 07, 2005, 03:31:04 PM

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But still. There were two pages of people saying "It sucks." Overkill, no? Even if it was *that* bad you should have the prudency to know someone's going to be pissed when they keep reading over and over "Wow, this is crap." Without anyone even SUGGESTING something.

That happened with one game I made, but I didn't flip out. I simply trashed the idea and started a new one.

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Post by: Grandy on June 07, 2005, 04:26:12 PM

 

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Monk and Ninja are two unappreciated FFT jobs..

 I like both. Ninja not so much because I loss itens everytime I attack.

 And the better couter move is Meatbone Slash of Samurai.

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Post by: Almeidaboo on June 07, 2005, 04:48:57 PM

This thread has changed purposes...It should be called: FFT: The last-ultimate-über class!

Back to topic: So, Moose´s mean huh? You know what, he´s kinda crazy too!!! XD

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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 07, 2005, 06:00:14 PM

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That happened with one game I made, but I didn't flip out. I simply trashed the idea and started a new one.

Exactly. Plus, there WERE people who were giving suggestions.

He's just a crying bitch who still needs his mommy.

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Post by: Osmose on June 07, 2005, 06:03:05 PM

Ramza makes a mean Samurai.

Well, one of my favorite strategies for him is to leave him a knight until he learns how to wear armor and helmets, and then make him a monk. He gets the huge HP bonuses from the armor and the power of the monk.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 07, 2005, 06:05:41 PM

Are we talking about knights and rpgs now? or are we that bored to keep talking about how mean you are?

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Post by: Osmose on June 07, 2005, 06:42:36 PM

Well, the way I see it, the conversation drifted because people didn't want to keep making excuses for being mean to ff7rules, and Gary just keeps saying stupid crap because he can't accept the fact that some people aren't going to whimper and walk away when everyone tells them their idea sucks.

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Post by: Grandy on June 07, 2005, 07:01:39 PM

I hate the "On topic" rule. When we talk to someone, we usually change about what ar we talking about.

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Ramza makes a mean Samurai.

Well, one of my favorite strategies for him is to leave him a knight until he learns how to wear armor and helmets, and then make him a monk. He gets the huge HP bonuses from the armor and the power of the monk.

 I don't use Ramza as a Samurai, I make one of the Random characters a Samurai

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Post by: Al~Len on June 07, 2005, 09:06:53 PM

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I hate the "On topic" rule.

That's really too bad.


Now Moose is one whom I've always noticed to take many posts and just flat out be remotely insulting, or vaguely rude.. but it never really bothered me since It's pretty easy to get frustrated, or are in a bad mood, etc.
Or maybe Moose just enjoys attempting to "outwit" people.. I dunno..
My opinion of Moose hasn't altered any either way. *shrugs*
(this was what the topic was at first.. right?... Allen's so lost..)


Either way.. After reading this topic since it first came to be, and now... I really have no clue what happened.. but take note..
Izlude and Marquis Elmdor are awesome..

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 07, 2005, 10:32:20 PM

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Originally posted by Grandy I hate the "On topic" rule.

That's really too bad.


Now Moose is one whom I've always noticed to take many posts and just flat out be remotely insulting, or vaguely rude.. but it never really bothered me since It's pretty easy to get frustrated, or are in a bad mood, etc.
Or maybe Moose just enjoys attempting to "outwit" people.. I dunno..
My opinion of Moose hasn't altered any either way. *shrugs*
(this was what the topic was at first.. right?... Allen's so lost..)


Either way.. After reading this topic since it first came to be, and now... I really have no clue what happened.. but take note..
Izlude and Marquis Elmdor are awesome..

Amen, amen.
Exactly my point, people who want to view the thread get lost, when the topic gets changed in this manner.

And anyway, lol, moose is mean, guess ppl have to live with it. But his mean in HIS own way XD

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Post by: Razor on June 07, 2005, 10:38:11 PM

about that on topic rule, people always go offtopic, and usually onto far more interesting conversations. then we have two conversations going on at once, and most people do one or the other, or both.

but then it gets locked. and I'm like '...'

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Post by: MrMister on June 07, 2005, 10:49:05 PM

I made one of my powerhouse knights into a mediator and learned 'Equip Gun', it was really spectacular.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 07, 2005, 10:52:29 PM

 And I go "...!?!?" when I go into the topic an see nonsense (nonsense in this case being what the topic is not about)
That' why you make threads.
 
Now drop this; it's enough that the topic took one direction.

Besides, I think we all know who Moose is, and well if we do...

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Post by: shinotebasiiackh on June 07, 2005, 11:52:06 PM

It's weird how the off topic version of the topic is allways more interesting...


Anyway.

When I first got photoshop, I was really jazzed. I was like, hell yeah, I can make stuff! Had my friend, Forrest (Who is spectacular at photoshop), just said that I sucked and that my photoshopping skills were akin to an autistic gorrila with seizures, I would have been crushed, stopped there, and never got to where I am now.

When you take into account how hard the person is working on something, and then think about their potential, sometimes it's good to candycoat a little.

A lot of people say that their first game sucked. But that means that they got better.

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Post by: Osmose on June 07, 2005, 11:59:31 PM

Indeed. And KM, don't I have the right to control the topic of a thread I created?

Repeating Fist. <3
Elmdor. <3<3
Orlandu <3<3<3<3<3<3

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 08, 2005, 12:28:50 AM

Within the boundaries that was created for, yes. Otherwise, then I guess there would be no point for you to create new threads, since you can keep all your topics in one thread. Then again we would both agree that the idea sounds stupid and irritating, creating an ironic feeling which will make you, bleh, I dunno, defensive or rather mean about it.

Then again the purpose of the thread was  (and I use the term lightly) to compare your 'meaness' to other people's comments, which to you it seemed, meaner to you than your 'mean' comments, or at least you made it look that way.

Of course between the ridicule that was being made already, the topic changed to, I'll quote Almeidaboo:

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This thread has changed purposes...It should be called: FFT: The last-ultimate-über class!

Which you can see that between the original purpose and, the 'new' purpose, are very, well, how would you say... different? And even managed to confuse, or get people 'lost'.

As far it seems it may be part of your meaness, but hey who's complaining?

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Post by: Osmose on June 08, 2005, 02:37:28 AM

Well, you see, people have this thing called common sense. Trying to fight down the argument of how stupid closing MY topic because I'M not posting about what YOU think I should be posting about is by saying "Well, then let's just put all topics in one topic, eh?!"

That would be stupid, and any idiot knows it. But someone with common sense understands what I mean - create a topic and talk about the topic, but if the main group of people posting in the thread move on to a different topic and keep posting in the same thread, why punish them by locking the topic?

If we're so anti-spam, why lock topics and force people to make two new ones for each topic they were previously talking about?

Speaking of which, why do rules have to be so specific? This goes back to the common sense thing: mods are chosen because the admin thinks they have the sense to enforce the rules in a timely manner. That includes deciding when a rule should be enforced

Now, useless posts, ALA your forum gaming "last post wins" topic, are a good example of what would be spam if it was in the All of All. But people in a topic following the natural flow of a conversation from one topic to another shouldn't be considered spam, as all it does is make people angry that some idiot mod came in and locked their topic becuase OMFG IT'S HURTING MY EYES THEY AREN'T TALKING ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT THE TOPIC TITLE SAYS!

Also, if you are confused by a conversation that jumps over to a videogame after someone mentions said videogame, then you really need to reevaluate your reading skills. Or, even better, don't post and make the mods feel that they need to ruin everyone's fun because someone didn't understand a conversation.

No offense, Allen, I just need an example.  :D

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 08, 2005, 03:19:20 AM

lol it would be common sense if I go to a topic and read what it's about.

I dun want to go into a video store to find auto parts, common sense, yes?
lol I understand off topic, heck I do it, in fact i been warned in other forums for it.

And just to let you know, there is no off-topic rule that I remember reading (yep as a regular member I gotta know this stuff ;)), however there is a rule that says :Make sure your topic's title is revelant with the topic's body. (that is not, umm, how did you say, specific?)
The topic's body is the whole thread content; it is the authors responsability to stabalize any real unrevelance, such as this.

What you are allowing is: The point of my thread was concluded, let's move to something else in this thread, since is mine.

I still don't see how making a new thread is umm 'punishing', and no one is locking anything, so surely dun know where are you getting assumptions.

Now to lock a thread for the fact for them to start a fresh new topic about what they were talking about... eh, dun know how's that punishing, not that any one learns a lesson, nor anyone results hurt, nor ruins anyone fun, unless this is really the only source of entertainment then well too bad for you, starts going to other forums.

And well apperantly you think I am doing this cuz a mod status, and even though you'll discredit me i'll say it anyway; I am a member of this forum too, I am a member like you, and I am probably have the same 'common sense'; I know these little things such as  rules seem like really irritating, I've done it, right now I am going thru something like this on rpgfreedom, but as a mod, rules are to be inforced; what rule am I trying to inforce?

 

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Creating Threads

Before making a new thread, stop and think about what will you post about. Be specific and make sure it expresses something meaningful. Also Make sure your topic's title is revelant with the topic's body.

Sure is for creating threads, and it is not as specific as you say, but making your thread's body revelant to your topic, is not saying specificly saying ; don't go off-topic, it just asks, to MAKE SURE the thread content is revelant to the topic title. For, not even the topic title of this topic make sense, but I guess it went along with what you said.

This goes back to Lord Raffles, though a bit different, his topic title had to do nothing with the thread, which later on, was left open for any open discussion, which later was closed, because , well, he's purpose was to leave it open with fix topic.

different indeed, but just goes along w/the rule.

 

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Also, if you are confused by a conversation that jumps over to a videogame after someone mentions said videogame, then you really need to reevaluate your reading skills. Or, even better, don't post and make the mods feel that they need to ruin everyone's fun because someone didn't understand a conversation.

lol is it that hard in a spychological manner to create new threads?
lol I been there, and yep it's hard. lol and well no one is gloomy, so we are all having fun hehehe...

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Post by: Osmose on June 08, 2005, 03:46:27 AM

My topic title did have to do with my thread, or, rather, was a preface to what was inside. And then it ended. I'm not saying you are doing any of this(actually, most of this is probably dug up grudges against carmen - she locks topics because "the discussion is over" WTF?!)

And yes, having a topic locked is irritating, not because (HEAVEN FORBID I MIGHT CARE ABOUT SOMETHING) I don't have other forms of entertainment, but because I wonder why my topic got locked, why I have to go through the trouble of making another topic, when the topic didn't need to be locked in the fist place.

The current interpretation of the rules is really far more strict than it needs to be. Why do we even need to be having this discussion (because if I said argument I am almost certain I'd get a "we're not arguing. or at least, i'm not. i could care less because i have an outside life and like to resort to this excuse just to get the upper hand in the argument")? I could be talking with the other nice people in my thread, but instead you came over and told me that a bit of side talk in the thread is kinda bad and that we need to get back on topic. One person complained, Allen, who, although he is a cool guy, is one person who wasn't even actively participating in the thread until recently. So the rest of us have to "get back on topic" because one kid whined?

That is what irks me.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 08, 2005, 04:03:57 AM

LoL no no no, and you are right, we are not arguing we are discussing, I am not about to lock anything either, and well I never said to go back  in topic, in fact I kinda went with what you guys were talking about, in a few posts back, when I was talking to razor

 

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Now drop this; it's enough that the topic took one direction.

lol although the subject about the non-topicness wasn't dropped but oh well, I am not complaining. lol in fact the thread is been doing ok, and it is still ok, but as it was going, it was going to derrive from it's purpose, I just didn't want it to lose it essence; talking about how mean you are is too fun XD j/k

lol no, you dun exactly have to go back on topic, but stay on topic. there's a difference between those two terms and I hope you see it.

And anyway, we can both truly say we went REALLY off-topic,  for I have knack of doing that, carry on. :D hehehe...

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Post by: SaiKar on June 08, 2005, 06:54:53 AM

Actually, I think that little exchange between Moose and Kijuki was one of the more intelligent conversations I've seen on Charas in the past forever or so.

I can see both sides. When I come into this thread, I was thinking I would see discussion of ff7rules's game thread and (possibly) unfair treatment to Osmose. Instead I see talk about Final Fantasty Tactics, a game that I both never played and have no interest in reading about. So it begs the question: why are they talking about this here?

On the other hand, real life conversations never stay on a single topic for THAT long, as people have difereing ideas and thoughts and before you know it, they are lead on some tangent and talking about something totally different. It's a totally natural thing, and it appears to happen both offline and on.

My advice is this: if you want to start a new topic, start a new thread. You'll probably get more people interested anyway. Who knows how many people out there like FFT but don't read this thread because they thought it was about Moose whining about unfair treament? So when you see yourself going off topic, just start a new thread and continue it there. If the original thread dies, so be it. Topics come and go.

I am half tempted to start a new thread about this encouraging discussion, but I fear it would turn into an "us vs them" "vote" of some sort, and I don't think a ruling one way or the other will benefit anyone. So I ask you all to heed my advice about starting new topics, and I shall sit on this issue for a while, to watch and to wait.

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Post by: Drace on June 08, 2005, 01:01:57 PM

ARGH! I can't take it anymore. All the letters! They're driving me crazy!

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Post by: Razor on June 09, 2005, 06:34:12 AM

I still like the idea of evolving conversations. That way we'd cut down on threads by about 2%.

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Post by: Weregnome on June 09, 2005, 10:36:59 AM

U know.. there shgould be more FFT stuff... and yogurt

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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 09, 2005, 11:57:57 AM

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Well, the way I see it, the conversation drifted because people didn't want to keep making excuses for being mean to ff7rules, and Gary just keeps saying stupid crap because he can't accept the fact that some people aren't going to whimper and walk away when everyone tells them their idea sucks.

Well, the fact was, when people post a stupid idea nowadays, I tend to ignore it. Not that anyone else should do it too, but I don't do it no more, because I know I get crap like this.

And with crap like this I mean you in this case. Why attacking me? I didn't do anything wrong? How do you mean stupid crap? All I did say was probably a mod deleted it because of flaming, which shouldn't be done, and then somebody explained you can delete your own posts.

In other words, this time you are being irrelevant. I don't care if people are mean. You are mean, big deal. Carmen is mean too. I am mean at some points, when you piss me off. Like now. You're lucky I'm not being mean right now, because things would get nasty here.

So, my final conclusion, if people are going to be prissy because you are mean, don't. I was mean, people were prissy, same people who became prissy became mean, so they can screw themselves. Don't make a topic out of it.

About that more FFT stuff, I'm making a generator resource of FFTA.

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Post by: Osmose on June 09, 2005, 02:57:03 PM

I was referring to how you were calling him a whiny little bitch in THIS thread.

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Post by: Grandy on June 09, 2005, 04:32:12 PM

 

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This goes back to Lord Raffles...

 *Ducks when hears this name*

 I'm with Osmose against the off-topic rule. Of course, lets not start to post request in a thread with the name "My father died...".

  [GLOW]BUT[/GLOW] as we can see, the title of this thread don't say "Discussion about the off-topic rules", so we're going off topic here.

 And I hate FFTA, they ruined about everything fun in FFT. No female characters (the only girl and the rabbits-like girls doesnt count), the Black Mage looked less misterious. Moogles shouldn't fight, or better, there should NOT be moogles in FFT. I didnt like the lizardmen and the.... other.... things..... men....
 The bosses were too easy, the random battles was aways against the same enemy, its obrigatory to complete the missions, and Montblanck is a crappy name.
 Also, we can't turn the screen around.
 Also, the summonings were crappy.
 Also, the story sucks.
 Also, the whole "OMG, monsters attacking the town for no reaon at all!!11!!1!1!oneone!111exclamation!"

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Post by: Razor on June 10, 2005, 01:22:16 AM

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This goes back to Lord Raffles...

 *Ducks when hears this name*

I forgot about him. Honestly.

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 10, 2005, 01:23:17 AM

I remember telling snake eater once, not to quote post razor... is technically spam.

and you posted twice? ..

EDIT: Good, you are smarter than that ;)

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Post by: MrMister on June 10, 2005, 02:05:29 AM

Grandy's right, FFTA ruined the whole Square Enix experience for me. The only Square games I've played in the last 2 years are Vagrant Story and FFT.

I think if the topic isn't interesting anymore(in this case it never was) it's okay to talk about something else.. after all, thats what a conversation is, it moves along and changes.

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Post by: Osmose on June 10, 2005, 02:43:11 AM

FFTA was horrible.  I mean, laws? I can't harm the opponent? How the hell am I supposed to kill him?! Poison?! I don't have poison!

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Post by: Weregnome on June 10, 2005, 05:57:23 AM

fFTA i never played, but from all I kinow who has played it said 'eating my own foot would be better'... well not exactly that but u get the point.

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Post by: SaiKar on June 10, 2005, 06:21:23 AM

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FFTA was horrible.  I mean, laws? I can't harm the opponent? How the hell am I supposed to kill him?! Poison?! I don't have poison!

BLMs had poison. I know you had poison.

Though, if you poision the enemy to death (or use instant-death magic) it still counts as damaging the opponent and breaking the law. So, um, yeah. There was actually no way to win those battles without breaking the law. Some of the laws were really stupid like that, but most were totally minor and could be easily used to your advantage if you stopped whining for 5 seconds.

The best part about FFTA was, by far, getting Judgemaster Cid and completing the last 6 missions about the corrupt judges and going on a rampage breaking laws and sending the other judges to jail.

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Post by: Osmose on June 10, 2005, 07:28:12 AM

Poison is a useless spell. I never got it.

And I stopped playing FFT:A before that point. It bored me.

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Post by: Darkfox on June 10, 2005, 07:34:24 AM

I believe my sources that say Final Fantasy Tactics was better off on PSX.

But I have not played either, I never was much of a tactics person when it comes to RPGs.

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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 10, 2005, 10:23:34 AM

The problem is, there is no way to rip FFT. You can only capture it, or maybe even dump it (though some people are too stupid to actually add a texture dumper for the PS systems).

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Post by: Leon_1990 on June 10, 2005, 10:42:00 AM

Laws suck...
I was fighting a bunch of monsters..and guess what, there was a frickin' law against damaging monsters AND colour magic!!!

I ended up with my entire squad in jail -_-

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Post by: Osmose on June 10, 2005, 05:24:10 PM

Gary - By capture, what do you mean? When I say ripping sprites from FFT, I mean character sprites and stuff. Speaking of which, you can use a program called FFTSprite and an ISO of FFT to take the little sheet that FFT itself uses:

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Post by: Grandy on June 10, 2005, 07:29:52 PM

Where the hell you found that? I've been loking for these stuff for ages!

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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 10, 2005, 07:32:46 PM

*remembers the scene where osmose said the same thing*

LMAO!!!

rofl

lol if you look hard enough you'll find them, rofl.

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Post by: Grandy on June 10, 2005, 07:37:45 PM

 Tell that to the 3000 pages I've saw, and had only the face, or only one frame.

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Post by: lonewolf on June 10, 2005, 08:22:48 PM

flame. what is one?
osmose at 1st you did not get on with me
and now you help me out
and i thank you for that
i now im not so good at saying thing
and mess up all the time here
if it was not for your help
i will have ended up not helping anyone here
it is good that we all get on  and help out on what we good at
thats why i like it here and help out on what i can
if we all was like that we all can help out new games that come here for help
 there are lots of new things being made all the time  in the rpg world  game makes  
can make  good and not so good games and one of you lot may make a good game  one day and in hope the big boys in the gaming world will pay for you to make a rpg game for the rpg game world
and it will go a round the world  and the game maker may say he or she got help here and the big boys may ask you or any game maker here to help on a new game there team may be making
think on that  as you may not now how may be coming here to have a look on what we can do here
so let all get on make new games and help out more
on what we can and thank you all for your time

keep up all the good work we  all do here ok

osmose keep up the work you do to
as you ok in my books

by the way all you base be long to use
joke ok and thanks for let me now this game and the song

if you  like to now thats the welcome i got from
osmose and i got go now what it is
some one mess up on a game and now all game players
know of it all over the world
think one that two we all mess thing up time to time
bye for now
p.s keep gaming you lot