Charas-Project

Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: kodakumi on June 10, 2005, 03:52:05 AM

Title: something to read.
Post by: kodakumi on June 10, 2005, 03:52:05 AM

there have been many people who have jumped off the golden gate bridge, a mojority of the time to take there own life.

And almost as soon as there 75% of the way down off the golden gate bridge, they realise how to rid out all of there problems... exept for the fact that they were 75% of the way down the golden gate bridge... they had no chance of living into the future.



there are other ways to let out of your depression than killing yourself... find a solution to why your depressed and be succesfull in destroying the phase that EVERYBODY (thats right it doesnt only effect you) has at least once in there life.




discuss.

Title:
Post by: Osmose on June 10, 2005, 04:03:34 AM

Aparently I'm not everybody. What kind of idiot kills themself?

Title:
Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on June 10, 2005, 04:15:00 AM

There are so many things you can do before you die. And what's the meaning in dying?

Title:
Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 10, 2005, 04:21:20 AM

As a samurai-wanna-be, I do believe there is meaning in dying, however not in suicidal conditions; at least not in the "Ugh I can't continue anymore!" suicidal condition.

Title:
Post by: Drace on June 10, 2005, 05:11:15 AM

Why don't they just grow up and fight the problems. Every suicider is a loser.
Also, terrorism suicide. That sucks even more. That you want to die ok, but that you kill other ppl who maybe love their lives then **** off!

Title:
Post by: Weregnome on June 10, 2005, 06:01:38 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Osmose
Aparently I'm not everybody. What kind of idiot kills themself?

*whistles*.... no seriously its retarded. Been there nearly killed myself. Its retarded. What's more retarded is people who think death is cool.

Title:
Post by: SaiKar on June 10, 2005, 06:04:13 AM

Quote

Originally posted by kodakumi
And almost as soon as there 75% of the way down off the golden gate bridge, they realise how to rid out all of there problems... exept for the fact that they were 75% of the way down the golden gate bridge... they had no chance of living into the future.

That's pretty presumptiuous. How do you, or how does anyone, know what these doomed people are thinking? Maybe most of them think "Finally, I'm going to die. I'm so sick of life I can't wait any longer."

Title:
Post by: shinotebasiiackh on June 10, 2005, 08:28:08 AM

This, kids, is why the bunjie cord was invented.

Title:
Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on June 10, 2005, 09:01:47 AM

Quote

Originally posted by shinotebasiiackh
This, kids, is why the bunjie cord was invented.

lol i think I heard something about that.. though I am not sure...

Title:
Post by: Leon_1990 on June 10, 2005, 10:49:28 AM

yeah, your right, i know someone on charas that slashes his own arms due to depression... there are other ways around Depression besides this.

I have it -chronic depression- so you can trust what I'm saying! really, i use charas as a cure for depression, cos i can come here with the thought in my mind that you wont all act like a$$holes to me, and that you wont all act in the usual corrupted human way.

Tell me if you agree with me ;)

Title:
Post by: Red Giant on June 10, 2005, 07:07:38 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Leon_1990
yeah, your right, i know someone on charas that slashes his own arms due to depression... there are other ways around Depression besides this.

I have it -chronic depression- so you can trust what I'm saying! really, i use charas as a cure for depression, cos i can come here with the thought in my mind that you wont all act like a$$holes to me, and that you wont all act in the usual corrupted human way.

Tell me if you agree with me ;)

Uuh, *Points to your custom title.*

Title:
Post by: True Evil on June 10, 2005, 07:52:12 PM

Hey! My substitute teacher told me this not too long ago!
Wow. Dying sucks *** .

Title:
Post by: Leon_1990 on June 10, 2005, 08:05:53 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Red Giant

quote:

Originally posted by Leon_1990 yeah, your right, i know someone on charas that slashes his own arms due to depression... there are other ways around Depression besides this. I have it -chronic depression- so you can trust what I'm saying! really, i use charas as a cure for depression, cos i can come here with the thought in my mind that you wont all act like a$$holes to me, and that you wont all act in the usual corrupted human way. Tell me if you agree with me ;)

Uuh, *Points to your custom title.*

muhahahaha I'EVIL TODAY RED ><

Title:
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 10, 2005, 08:14:48 PM

If you think you're life is so bad because you have bad grades or people pick on you, then you're an ignorant a****** that needs to grow up. What these people don't realize is that there's always a light at the end of the tunnel and it will get better, maybe not by much, but living is better than jumping off a bridge. When a 14 year old thinks that their life can't get better, they needs realize that they've got about 60 more years, and that amount of time is so incomprehensible to think about.

To sum it up, if you wanna kill yourself, grow the hell up and start wearing your big kid underwear.

Title:
Post by: kodakumi on June 10, 2005, 10:47:04 PM

Quote

Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX
If you think you're life is so bad because you have bad grades or people pick on you, then you're an ignorant a****** that needs to grow up. What these people don't realize is that there's always a light at the end of the tunnel and it will get better, maybe not by much, but living is better than jumping off a bridge. When a 14 year old thinks that their life can't get better, they needs realize that they've got about 60 more years, and that amount of time is so incomprehensible to think about.

To sum it up, if you wanna kill yourself, grow the hell up and start wearing your big kid underwear.

awesome, powerful words.

Title:
Post by: kodakumi on June 12, 2005, 07:16:51 AM

any more to discuss?

Title:
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 12, 2005, 07:46:49 AM

You really don't bump a topic like this. If someone has something to say, they'll say it. If not, it dies.

Title:
Post by: kodakumi on June 12, 2005, 08:37:12 AM

i apologize.

Title: I'm surprised noone else pointed this out.
Post by: Razor on June 12, 2005, 10:08:44 AM

Just how does anyone know that these people felt this way 75% down the jump? It's not possible! Unless they had a voice recorder or something, but that would be destroyed on impact! My point is, this is a lie.

Title:
Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on June 12, 2005, 09:08:37 PM

well actually Saikar pointed that out.

Title:
Post by: Almeidaboo on June 12, 2005, 11:42:07 PM

Y'all treat depression and killing yourself as an act of a coward...Shut up, it´s a freaking mind disease, which you should get if you realized the amount of CRAP you all said.

Title:
Post by: kodakumi on June 13, 2005, 12:02:51 AM

its not true, but its a myth/theory.

just something to discuss.

Title:
Post by: Osmose on June 13, 2005, 12:11:54 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Y'all treat depression and killing yourself as an act of a coward...Shut up, it´s a freaking mind disease, which you should get if you realized the amount of CRAP you all said.

My brother was in DAF, a drug rehab center, for a while, and during that time he met a lot of people who turned to drugs because of depression. The opinion of everyone who got over it was that their depression was a big overreaction. Several of them also said that depression medicine was nothing more than something to get them high.

The ones who said that it was an actual disease were also the ones who came back to DAF a week later because of another overdose due to their depression.

Really, the main reason people defend it as being a disease is because they don't want to "cure" it and admit that they overreacted and need to get a better grip on their lives.

Title:
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 13, 2005, 12:15:28 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Y'all treat depression and killing yourself as an act of a coward...Shut up, it´s a freaking mind disease, which you should get if you realized the amount of CRAP you all said.

That's a load. Some believe it to be a disease, while others believe it to be a conscious decision created by stress and is not an actual disease. Suicide IS the act of a coward. It's just like lying, if you keep it quiet and go the easy way, its cowardice. Yet if you can own up to it it takes courage. Facing up to your problems head first takes much more courage than slitting your wrist or jumping off a bridge.

Title:
Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on June 13, 2005, 02:37:31 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Y'all treat depression and killing yourself as an act of a coward...Shut up, it´s a freaking mind disease, which you should get if you realized the amount of CRAP you all said.

Suicide is an act of running away from your problems, not facing them. Some people need to understand that there are many people that have it worse off. Some people kill themselves over a pitiful thing like, "My parents won't leave me alone! They keep nagging me aboiut little things!" It's running away from problems that makes them commit suicide. Not every is strong, but everyone should be strong enough to fight off suicidal thoughts and despression.

Title:
Post by: Kinslayer on June 13, 2005, 04:42:11 AM

I am a person who is often depressed, but the best way to  let pain go, is writing. Poems, stories, songs, whatever. I leave all my pain in a piece of paper, and there it stays. It is a way of discharge, you know. Using piercings and stuff to show that you are in pain is not my way, really, although I like heavy metal, gothic rock and stuff.

Title:
Post by: Almeidaboo on June 13, 2005, 04:19:14 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Rune_of_Punishment

quote:

Originally posted by Almeidaboo Y'all treat depression and killing yourself as an act of a coward...Shut up, it´s a freaking mind disease, which you should get if you realized the amount of CRAP you all said.

Suicide is an act of running away from your problems, not facing them. Some people need to understand that there are many people that have it worse off. Some people kill themselves over a pitiful thing like, "My parents won't leave me alone! They keep nagging me aboiut little things!" It's running away from problems that makes them commit suicide. Not every is strong, but everyone should be strong enough to fight off suicidal thoughts and despression.

Do you have the guts to say that you suffer for other ppls problems more than you suffer for your own problems. REgardless of what it is, when you are in pain, it always seems to be the worst pain in the world, you can´t even think about the world itself. During pain, all you see is y-o-u.
In that situation you simply can´t get a grip of your mind because your body won´t let you! Its in your f.ckin head! My cousin had anorexia, related to depression, and we always told her "Gilr, you are as thin as a skeleton!" and she would always say "No i´m not! I´m fat can´t you see?". She wasn´t a sick-wannabe, her mind wouldn´t let her see the reality; what she saw was a result of her traumas!
Now, your head won´t let you move on, you NEED medicines as a hope to get better (and idiots that take medicine to get high are as much idiots as ppl who take any kind of drugs, so they do not fit this speech), your suffering just won´t stop and you are forced into´their actions...you don´t do it because you want.

Title:
Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on June 13, 2005, 04:47:54 PM

Anyone can control themselves.

Title:
Post by: Razor on June 13, 2005, 09:17:29 PM

Well, you see, depression IS a mental disease.

But these days, a lot of teenagers, when ever something doesn't go their way, they become sad and SAY it's depression. Dude, teenagers suck.

Also, I'm sick of hearing people say depression is an emotion. Its not! It's freaking sadness that is similiar and often mixed up.

Title:
Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on June 13, 2005, 09:37:40 PM

Still, it can be controlled.

Title:
Post by: Razor on June 13, 2005, 09:47:52 PM

Anti-depressants don't really work. They just make you angry. Just ask my properly depressed friend, who never made it onto Charas.

Title:
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 13, 2005, 09:59:22 PM

Anti-depressants do work, but you have to be depressed because of a chemical imbalance in your brain. Most suicidaly depressed people create their depression from their own strees, so until they realize that's it's their problem and get their act together instead of waiting for everyone else to get better to their liking (as most do), they can't get better.

Title:
Post by: tubsywubsy667 on June 13, 2005, 10:07:18 PM

i have heard that Anti-depressants only work if you are proven by a doctor to suffer from chronic depression and that the come-down off the drugs is worse then the depression so people feel then need to take them so often, if they get to the point where they cannot take them it can lead to suicide, that is what i heard, it may be true it may not be

Title:
Post by: kodakumi on June 13, 2005, 10:58:45 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Razor
Well, you see, depression IS a mental disease.

But these days, a lot of teenagers, when ever something doesn't go their way, they become sad and SAY it's depression. Dude, teenagers suck.

Also, I'm sick of hearing people say depression is an emotion. Its not! It's freaking sadness that is similiar and often mixed up.

its not so much a mental disease, more of a LOW! state of mind.

Title:
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 13, 2005, 11:03:31 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Razor
Well, you see, depression IS a mental disease.

But these days, a lot of teenagers, when ever something doesn't go their way, they become sad and SAY it's depression. Dude, teenagers suck.

Also, I'm sick of hearing people say depression is an emotion. Its not! It's freaking sadness that is similiar and often mixed up.

That right there is 100% right. It's like people wanna be. I remember when I showed my friends that "Are You A Goth?" thing. All of them said that they had the depression thing. It was a total load.

Title:
Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on June 13, 2005, 11:12:56 PM

I'm so depressed. I'ma go kill myself now....

Title:
Post by: Razor on June 13, 2005, 11:29:07 PM

People are quoting me! And not in the way me and Red quote each other! Yay!

Title:
Post by: kodakumi on June 14, 2005, 05:15:21 AM

Quote

Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX

quote:

Originally posted by Razor Well, you see, depression IS a mental disease. But these days, a lot of teenagers, when ever something doesn't go their way, they become sad and SAY it's depression. Dude, teenagers suck. Also, I'm sick of hearing people say depression is an emotion. Its not! It's freaking sadness that is similiar and often mixed up.

That right there is 100% right. It's like people wanna be. I remember when I showed my friends that "Are You A Goth?" thing. All of them said that they had the depression thing. It was a total load.

they have no idea what goths are, thats so... stupid.



thats just like saying, rpg maker is crap just because its called that.


its not true.

Title:
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 14, 2005, 10:19:32 AM

Hmmm... I don't think suicide is cowardice. It takes alot of courage to take your own life, and usually it's because your life is so bad that it's worse than nothing. Just think, suicide means no more pain, no more sadness on your part.

I'm not promoting suicide, but I don't think suicidal people should be treated harshly. They'll always have a very good reason for trying to kill themselves, because it takes massive will power to override your survival instinct.

Title:
Post by: Leon_1990 on June 14, 2005, 10:33:20 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Razor
Well, you see, depression IS a mental disease.

But these days, a lot of teenagers, when ever something doesn't go their way, they become sad and SAY it's depression. Dude, teenagers suck.

Also, I'm sick of hearing people say depression is an emotion. Its not! It's freaking sadness that is similiar and often mixed up.

so true.... Most of us just keep it in our minds tht we're depressed and we actually begin to believe it...

Most people are pathetic and just give up when live turns a bad hand...
Hey, I'm actually diagnosed with depression, but I dont laze about feeling sorry for myself like most people seem to do when they have "Depression", and I'm sure that most people with the actual "Illness" as you all seem to put it, dont feel sorry for themselves either... that just pi$$e$ me off when people do that...

oh yeah, and Moosetroop, I'm not trying to have a dig at you or anything, but what you are saying is a load of crap, how can you say that suicicde is not cowardice!!?!
Suicide is cowardice because you cant face up to the world. NOT cowardice because it's hard to take your own life...

Title:
Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 14, 2005, 10:59:42 AM

 

Quote

oh yeah, and Moosetroop, I'm not trying to have a dig at you or anything, but what you are saying is a load of crap, how can you say that suicicde is not cowardice!!?!

Hmmm... I can see what you're saying, but I beleive that a person's life is their own. What they do with it, so long as they're not hurting others, is their own choice. That's all I mean.

Title:
Post by: Leon_1990 on June 14, 2005, 11:03:30 AM

hmmm... I cant remember what I meant now -_-''
I'm not good at explaining things...

Title:
Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on June 14, 2005, 01:20:33 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Moosetroop11

quote:

oh yeah, and Moosetroop, I'm not trying to have a dig at you or anything, but what you are saying is a load of crap, how can you say that suicicde is not cowardice!!?!

Hmmm... I can see what you're saying, but I beleive that a person's life is their own. What they do with it, so long as they're not hurting others, is their own choice. That's all I mean.

You think that suicide does not hurt others? It does.

Title:
Post by: Leon_1990 on June 14, 2005, 02:00:03 PM

hmmm, Rune of Punishment is right, my friends big brother commited suicide (drugs related, bt still....) and he hasnt been the same since... Suicide doesnt just affect 1 person...

Title:
Post by: Al~Len on June 14, 2005, 03:15:35 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Rune_of_Punishment
You think that suicide does not hurt others? It does.

I think you misinterpreted what Moosetroop meant..
Probably only if that person was very close to another. It all depends on the situation really..

Title:
Post by: kodakumi on June 16, 2005, 01:48:08 PM

Lots of differant oppinions flying around here.