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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: ivan mage on June 15, 2005, 10:24:10 PM

Title: chipset generator!
Post by: ivan mage on June 15, 2005, 10:24:10 PM: i just felt like telling everyone that i am currently working on a chipset generator.
i fond it so annoying when i have chips in one chipset that i need for my game, whereas there are others in other chipsets.
aswell you can import your own chipsets too.
tell me if you have any ideas, as i would like to hear!
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Post by: Dashman on June 15, 2005, 10:29:03 PM: How would it work? Explain a little of it. I don't find a way of how that can work.
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Post by: charaman on June 15, 2005, 10:30:04 PM: yeah...
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Post by: Reain_ on June 15, 2005, 11:49:29 PM: It Sounds Like a good idea .. but what are you using to make it?
Title: flash mx
Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 12:45:03 AM: im using macromedia flash right now. i simply set it so you have a bar at the side with all the chips, and when you click on one, it puts it into the image.
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Post by: VahnGrave on June 16, 2005, 01:00:38 AM: That doesn't sound like it would work too great...
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 01:38:12 AM: i know flash has a bad reputation, but thats only the opinions of the people who dont know how to use it. once you do, however, it can be used for a great many things.
anywhoo if you have any doubts, heres a picture to give you an idea...
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 01:42:54 AM: oops, forgot the image!
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 16, 2005, 01:46:48 AM: Seem to know what your doing.
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Post by: VahnGrave on June 16, 2005, 02:38:31 AM: I'm just saying that the flash thing might not work that great. I never said it had a bad rep or anything. Its just that, that fact that certain chips have to go into certain places, and crap like that, might mess you up.
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 02:52:28 AM: not to worry! im planning to set it up so that you click on the chip in the bar, and it automaticaly finds the best place to put itself.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 16, 2005, 02:56:09 AM: So if spot A is taken, the chip will automatically go to spot B??
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 03:06:47 AM: yup!
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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on June 16, 2005, 03:07:25 AM: I know absolutely nothing about Flash, but it's looking pretty awesome! Good luck with it!
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on June 16, 2005, 03:22:24 AM: Sweet. Just hope you've got a MASSIVE amount of chipsets.
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Post by: Osmose on June 16, 2005, 03:48:10 AM: Flash + bitmaps = trouble

This is from years of fighting with the damn program. If you can find some way to circumvent it's horrible treatment to bitmaps, I take my hat off to you.
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 04:34:38 AM: ive been using flash for two years now, and i have never had a problem with bitmaps. very odd...
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Post by: Osmose on June 16, 2005, 04:54:51 AM: Have you ever imported a bitmap to the stage? See how distorted it gets? You can see it already in your screenshots, those bitmaps are distorted themselves.
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 05:01:48 AM: the only reason its distorted is because i had to convert the image to a jpg just to put it on the forum. but belive me, it was nothing like that in the program itself.
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Post by: VulcanRaven336 on June 16, 2005, 05:35:23 AM: I think he'll pull it off.
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Post by: Osmose on June 16, 2005, 06:20:44 AM: No, not the JPEG distortion. If you look closely at the tree you can see it's uneven and choppy and stuff. Plus, if you look at all the sprites, the edges are screwed up.
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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 16, 2005, 10:28:38 AM: Flash + Generating = Trouble.

Unless you figured out a way to actually save the bitmaps with Flash, I wouldn't use it.
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 01:16:34 PM: oh! i see what you mean! not to worry, problem fixed!
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 01:29:34 PM: now, im certian alot of people are wondering how im going to make this work, so ill tell you.

if you use macromedia flash then you know that everything is divided into layers, like this

__________<--buttons
__________<--lines
__________<--chipset
__________<--background

what happens with my chipset generator is, when you click on a button, it imports a pre set image of that particular type of chip and puts it into the chipset layer.
so, to save it, all flash needs to do is save the files on that one layer

__________
__________
__________<--this is the layer that is saved
__________

well there you go, now you know.
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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 16, 2005, 02:29:55 PM: Save as a file, not into Flash. If you can't save it into a file, such thing is useless.

And i haven't seen any Actionscript command that can write to a file.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on June 16, 2005, 04:39:39 PM: If you pull it off, and do it well, you will have done a great thing. No-one else (to my knowledge) has made a chipset generator.
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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 16, 2005, 05:48:47 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Moosetroop11
If you pull it off, and do it well, you will have done a great thing. No-one else (to my knowledge) has made a chipset generator.
Even, better, noone has pulled it off to save a PNG with Flash.
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Post by: Reain_ on June 16, 2005, 07:28:26 PM: Flash? Intersting ... But it looks good so far, Though for somthing like this you'd think it be easier to use Visual Basic. I took a class for VB this year and it seems like a good program for making things like this .... Once I figure out more I'll probally use it to make generators like this.

but Keep up the good work and hope it comes out working like it should it will defanatly make chipsets much easyier. Then all you need is for people to make resorces for it.

and if he does find a way to save the image even if it is not png you can always convert it later. that or Print Screen works ^_~
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Post by: Drace on June 16, 2005, 08:18:35 PM: Good luck. I find you brave to work on it while these people hear a being mean against you. Give him a ****ing break and support him.
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Post by: Ace of Spades on June 16, 2005, 09:01:20 PM: Good luck dude. Cool thing that you're doing, will be a good asset (spelling?) to people. Hopefully you'll pull it off, keep workin hard! :D

OT: I can't believe I fell for that too...-_-'
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Post by: Grandy on June 16, 2005, 09:02:53 PM: Looking good, at least for me.
And who knows? Enyone could use it as a base to an off-line generator or something.
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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 16, 2005, 10:09:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Drace
Good luck. I find you brave to work on it while these people hear a being mean against you. Give him a ******* break and support him.
I'm not being mean, I'm just stating a simple fact.
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 10:50:23 PM: wow! i never thought of using visual basic! well you will be happy to know that thats what my chipset generator is now being made with. and by the way, its quite simple to save an image from flash, so long as its still a bmp and not a vector image.
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Post by: GaryCXJk on June 16, 2005, 10:56:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by ivan mage
wow! i never thought of using visual basic! well you will be happy to know that thats what my chipset generator is now being made with. and by the way, its quite simple to save an image from flash, so long as its still a bmp and not a vector image.
Well, I'm glad you're switching to Visual Basic.

By the way, would you mind telling how you would save with Flash? With what command that is? I've used Flash for about three to four years or so, and I never saw a save-function.

By the way, small suggestion: layered terrains and water. I hope you know what I mean. It's like, the water with the grass intersection. Now you can like, blend grass with desert with ease.

I'll post an example if you don't understand.
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Post by: ivan mage on June 16, 2005, 11:47:41 PM: good idea! maybe i could add two layers to the water, one for the water itself, and one for the border, ill have to thik about it.

and to answer your question about saving it, i went back and i discoverd a whole bunch of bugs with it, so i just scrapped it alltogether.
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Post by: ivan mage on June 17, 2005, 02:39:39 AM: @#$%! @##! $%#@! #@!
ok, i blew off some steam. i was working on the generator when, guess what? my computer crashed! now i cant find my diles and ill have to start all over! anywhoo, the generator might still be a month or two.

darn :(
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Post by: barnsalot on June 17, 2005, 12:38:57 PM: Aw, that sucks. The screens looked pretty good too.
Have you tried a Windows system restore? That can sometimes bring your files back. It saved my game project twice.
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Post by: Scarface Larry on June 17, 2005, 12:53:30 PM: Is it just me or do computers have this thing against very good RPGMaker related projects? Anyways, good luck with the project.
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Post by: maxine on June 21, 2005, 09:16:05 PM: hmmm if it sucseeds and so i think it will be great, keep working
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Post by: Leon_1990 on June 22, 2005, 03:14:33 PM: Looks awesome, hope you get it finished :D
try and include some, mac and blue chips for it too.

Here's a Djinn for ya :D +600 hp
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Post by: smokey_locs2002 on June 23, 2005, 02:54:00 AM: I made a design for a chipset gen a long time ago. I even tried to make one myself all I made were skins and gave up, cuz, yeah....
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Post by: darkrune on June 25, 2005, 04:26:07 AM: How is it coming?
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Post by: ivan mage on June 25, 2005, 05:22:30 AM: its coming ok. i just moved so that migh delay it a bit, but, thats life.