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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 02:46:51 AM

Title: Screw the facts, hes just gonna say whats convienient
Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 02:46:51 AM
Look, I just want charas to know why Im fed up with this place... people of like this.


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From :    Osmose
Date :    August 18, 2005, 9:34 pm
Subject :    Hey jackass,
Message :    Who the hell do you think you are? Some visionary who wants to give equality to everyone? Get your head out of your *** and get some common sense - a perfect world doesn't stop to listen to the opinions of every little ***. It's not the "cool rebelious" thing to do to defend anyone who even remotely resembles your god. I swear, you couldn't find your *** with both hands and a map.

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{me}
well, i needed the map, but i did find my ***.
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{osmose}
Wow, you're such a defender of intelligent conversation. You evade the truth like a true Raffler.
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{me}
Wow, your a genius.. raffler? Make that one up by yourself?
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{osmose}
Yep. You still haven't said anything about my original accusations, so you lose this edition of "Let's try to not be ignorant!" Have fun trying again next episode.
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{me}
My opinions are my own and no one else's. if my opinions agree with someone else's sure, I'll take their side. i dont know anyone who wouldn't. Wouldn't you?

There is no one who resembles my god, so get that idea out of your head. Oh, and if the perfect world doesnt stop to listen to the opinions of every litlle ***, why should i listen to yours. But I am, because I would like the same courtesy.


Thank you.
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{osmose}
Because you love feeling superior to me. You drink up every moment that I ridicule you in the dark and ignore your existance in the real forums.

I'm simply giving you what you want.
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{me}
umm.. do you really think that i care at all about you or your opinions?

you are sadly mistaken. you and your opinions are worthless to me and you could pay all the attention or as little attention as you want, and i still wont care.

sorry to burst your bubble.
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{osmose}
Hah. You're a bad liar. I can see the envy between the lines.

You don't understand me. You wonder why I don't partake in your buffet of ********. The thing is, I've just moved my belt up another notch, and if I move it up one more I'll need to buy a new one. I need to purify.

And hey, if I can help someone along the way, why not?
fine, have fun moving up. I hope that means id ont have to talk to you any more.
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{me}
fine, have fun moving up. I hope that means id ont have to talk to you any more.
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{osmose}
You deny the truth while it dances a drunken jig in front of your bemused face. I love it.

Give the people what they want. Sit on down and pass the blunt.
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{me}
ok, fine, i just wont respond any more.
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{osmose}
You can try and ignore it, but inside it will eat you out becuase you know I've one. You can stand me being right. I may be wrong, but really, who will judge me? You?

You aren't a mod anymore. And even then you couldn't touch me. What's it like being powerless?
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From :    Osmose
Date :    August 18, 2005, 10:32 pm
Subject :    Scared?
Message :    Yeah, I would be. Begging to me in public, I could ask for nothing better. This is such a great release. The little boy is crying to his mommy, but his mommy is too busy taking her pills.
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{me}
would you like the rest of charas to see these rantings? ill be glad to post them.
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{osmose}
Empty threats. Little boy, mommy doesn't care. She heard your cries, but she's too busy with her own depression. Someday she'll commit suicide, so be ready for the loss. You will grow up to be a teen who never got the love he wanted. You'll listen to System of a Down and try to understand their profound philosophies. And when mommy dies, you'll act like you won't care, but inside you'll die, just a bit.

It's really sad, but your older brother has already moved out. He's just calling in to say hello without your mom hearing. But tell Mom and she'll just take more pills.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 02:48:04 AM
Sad moves, Osmose.

Are you high?
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Post by: WarxePB on August 19, 2005, 02:50:27 AM
Again, why do you feel the need to post this?

Know that I am not saying either of you are right or wrong. I just want to know.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 02:51:02 AM
because I don't make "idle threats"
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Post by: WingZero on August 19, 2005, 02:51:32 AM
Yikes... _sweat_
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 02:55:40 AM
What exactly would you do in Charaman's shoes, warxe? I know I would do the same thing. Nothing wrong about it.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 03:03:24 AM
Worst of all, charaman says we are all like osmose, by saying his fed up with this place.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:04:07 AM
no, im saying a lot of people are, not every one. I'm just saying what I'm dealing with, i don't want a flame war.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:05:50 AM
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Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki
Worst of all, charaman says we are all like osmose, by saying his fed up with this place.


Out of all things, this is the reply
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 03:06:55 AM
i have to deal with more things than you charaman, WAY more things in this forum. yet i am not fed up with this place, cuz i love it.

ignore osmose, we all know who he is; angry kinda guy... at times.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:08:03 AM
ignore raffles then. We all know hes just trynig to make you mad.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 03:09:40 AM
We did ignore him. But he's no longer bothering me or the moderation team, but the whole board; that is something i cannot allow as an administrator, and something i cannot allow more importantly as a member.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:10:55 AM
yet you allow me to be harrassed personally, as a member to this site? i dont give a **** what kind of guy Osmose is, I would think all members be held to the same standards.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:12:40 AM
Osmose and Raffles have done similar things, except post porn. But you say ignore? But you insist on banning hector because of flaming?
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 03:13:49 AM
What can i do? I tried calming him down once, he didn't.
besides that i have no other power to withhold him.

And i wish for that too, but there's ppl wh dun beleive in that; raffles was one f them; himself thinks that he is superior to most other users.

My god... BANNING cuz of porn.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:15:10 AM
 
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himself thinks that he is superior to most other users


So does Osmose
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 03:18:10 AM
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Originally posted by wildguy3922
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himself thinks that he is superior to most other users


So does Osmose


? o.0 i know who osmose is. we ALL know who osmose is to charas. i used raffles as a reference to charaman
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Post by: WingZero on August 19, 2005, 03:18:55 AM
By the way I see it theres a big difrece betwen them Raffles makes his rpoblems in public Osmose makes them by PM if Osmose made a thread saying those rhings about you he would had the almost yes title because of flaming if your problen started on PM's you should have end it in PM's nort lower your self to his level.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:20:35 AM
But still, it is morally wrong, either way.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:21:22 AM
Osmose was just as immature, if not more immature than raffles with it. Do i need to be harassed, whether it be a thread or Pm, its still charas.


I tried to end it, and he continued Pming me.
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Post by: WingZero on August 19, 2005, 03:23:20 AM
yes it is but it would have been better if charaman just send a PM to Alex or Saikar about what Osmose is doing and they would have take care of it wit out making a flame thread.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:24:01 AM
I'm not flaming anyone, just tell you all.
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Post by: Goatulon on August 19, 2005, 03:24:10 AM
Everyone, Kijuki is doing what he thinks is right. For god sakes we dont have to all get bitchy about it. I have nothing but the highest respect for everyone on this forum, but Charaman when someone is forced to choose between 1 person and everybody, I'd hope that they'd have the sense to help the larger group. So yeah, I'm sorry about Osmose, I'd be pissed off as well, but theres no reason to take it out on the rest of us.
But what do I know, I'm just a kid/lord of goats.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on August 19, 2005, 03:24:18 AM
I came to charas because it was a great site for rm2k/3, now since I really don't use it anymore, I just hang around here because I like the community. However, if all I see is contraversy, and people pointing fingures at eachother, I might as well just leave, I have much better things to do with my time.

If you have a problem with Osmose, take it up with him. Learn how to deal with it yourself instead of running to the rest of us shouting "look what osmose did!" I get enough of that when I'm baby sitting my 5 year old cousins. So grow up and take care of your own problems.

The only point I see in this thread is you trying to put down osmose and turn others against him for what he said to you. Guess what, people say flame and bitch at others all the time, if I would make a new thread every time I heard someone say charas sux, or charas is retarded when it comes to games I'd have a post count of 1000, but all that would accomplish would be to turn people against each other.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:24:55 AM
No they won't, Alex and Saikar would only say something like

"We're not going to listen to any of the PM's because they only express their opinions. We are going to ban or almost ban who we think was in the wrong."
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Post by: WingZero on August 19, 2005, 03:26:18 AM
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Originally posted by charaman
I'm not flaming anyone, just tell you all.

I know your not trying to falme anyone but if Osmose decides to come here and statrs saying the stuff he tell you on Pm's youll be as guilty as he is because the thread will become a flame field.
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Post by: Relentless Soulscar on August 19, 2005, 03:26:44 AM
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Originally posted by os
You'll listen to System of a Down and try to understand their profound philosophies.
Hey! There's nothing all that depressing about SOAD... he confuses me. Their lyrics are anarchy, not depressing. But what ever. I believe he was completely out of line on the entire thing. But he has somewhat of a right to... EDIT: WTF?
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:29:07 AM
How many times do I have to say it? The managemnt of this forum isn't going to do anything about anything unless its involved with Raffles, but theres a lot of other **** here, too. How many ****ing raffles-complaint thread have there been in the past? no one gave any **** to their authors. Oh but "its our Osmose, we all know how he gets" when your really thinking "he took raffles side, so he must be a worthless peice of **** and deserve every word that osmose said." Oh I know thats what your thinking. Congratulations. Let's see if you can make your minds any narrower.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:29:50 AM
What a coincidence, I'm listening to them right now, lol.

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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
I came to charas because it was a great site for rm2k/3, now since I really don't use it anymore, I just hang around here because I like the community. However, if all I see is contraversy, and people pointing fingures at eachother, I might as well just leave, I have much better things to do with my time.

If you have a problem with Osmose, take it up with him. Learn how to deal with it yourself instead of running to the rest of us shouting "look what osmose did!" I get enough of that when I'm baby sitting my 5 year old cousins. So grow up and take care of your own problems.

The only point I see in this thread is you trying to put down osmose and turn others against him for what he said to you. Guess what, people say flame and ***** at others all the time, if I would make a new thread every time I heard someone say charas sux, or charas is retarded when it comes to games I'd have a post count of 1000, but all that would accomplish would be to turn people against each other.


I couldn't agree with you more. But we look to blame the people who either want to start it or fuel it. There is no stopping it. Don't say there is because there isn't. Darkfox and I have tried, but we only recieved flames from people like Osmose.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 03:32:59 AM
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Originally posted by charaman
How many times do I have to say it? The managemnt of this forum isn't going to do anything about anything unless its involved with Raffles, but theres a lot of other **** here, too. How many ******* raffles-complaint thread have there been in the past? no one gave any **** to their authors. Oh but "its our Osmose, we all know how he gets" when your really thinking "he took raffles side, so he must be a worthless peice of **** and deserve every word that osmose said." Oh I know thats what your thinking. Congratulations. Let's see if you can make your minds any narrower.


God.... *sigh* This is the price of an admin.. *taps finger on table*
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Post by: Goatulon on August 19, 2005, 03:33:23 AM
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Originally posted by charaman
How many times do I have to say it? The managemnt of this forum isn't going to do anything about anything unless its involved with Raffles, but theres a lot of other **** here, too. How many ******* raffles-complaint thread have there been in the past? no one gave any **** to their authors. Oh but "its our Osmose, we all know how he gets" when your really thinking "he took raffles side, so he must be a worthless peice of **** and deserve every word that osmose said." Oh I know thats what your thinking. Congratulations. Let's see if you can make your minds any narrower.


what the F*** im sorry dude, but come on, I was gone for most of the whole raffles fiasco. But if its banning people who post pornography on the forums or banning someone who hurt your feelings, it honestly doesnt seem like a damn contest.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:34:10 AM
i'm sorry, but its really disturbing. You all look to blame me for what he said by telling me to ignore it.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:35:05 AM
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Originally posted by Goatulon
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Originally posted by charaman
How many times do I have to say it? The managemnt of this forum isn't going to do anything about anything unless its involved with Raffles, but theres a lot of other **** here, too. How many ******* raffles-complaint thread have there been in the past? no one gave any **** to their authors. Oh but "its our Osmose, we all know how he gets" when your really thinking "he took raffles side, so he must be a worthless peice of **** and deserve every word that osmose said." Oh I know thats what your thinking. Congratulations. Let's see if you can make your minds any narrower.


what the F*** im sorry dude, but come on, I was gone for most of the whole raffles fiasco. But if its banning people who post pornography on the forums or banning someone who hurt your feelings, it honestly doesnt seem like a damn contest.


Not to us, but to other people it does
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 03:37:41 AM
Charaman, i told you already whata heck!!!! I can't d anything about it! just like i can't do anything about raffles! geeee, ALSO this is not obsulute but IT was a PM a thing between members, like an e-mail. That desn't excuse osmose it doesn't, but if it makes you happy and it will be righteous to do, we'll ban osmose AND raffles.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:38:34 AM
dont be like that, i just dont want it minimized.
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Post by: Relentless Soulscar on August 19, 2005, 03:39:58 AM
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dont be like that, i just dont want it minimized.

you mean to say you posted this whole thing... and when he offers to see a banning for him... you say no? THE HELL?
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Post by: WingZero on August 19, 2005, 03:40:13 AM
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Originally posted by charaman
i'm sorry, but its really disturbing. You all look to blame me for what he said by telling me to ignore it.


thats not true the thing is thatnow that you pu this Osmose has a reason to disturb you now on this thread wit out breaking a rule his problem where on PM that one of the rules of the forum if you have a problem theres a PM for it not the boards.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:41:05 AM
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Originally posted by charaman
dont be like that, i just dont want it minimized.

you mean to say you posted this whole thing... and when he offers to see a banning for him... you say no? THE HELL?


He's not going to get banned.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 03:41:31 AM
Apperantly you want osmose banned, and actually he SHOULD and now that I think of it he WILL, because regardless he did flame another member inside the boards. but still you should NOT have made this public, a PM o one of the admins wold have done better but since you don't beleve it so, then thank you.
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Post by: Relentless Soulscar on August 19, 2005, 03:42:32 AM
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He's not going to get banned.

HAHA!! yes he is!
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:43:32 AM
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Originally posted by charaman
i'm sorry, but its really disturbing. You all look to blame me for what he said by telling me to ignore it.


thats not true the thing is thatnow that you pu this Osmose has a reason to disturb you now on this thread wit out breaking a rule his problem where on PM that one of the rules of the forum if you have a problem theres a PM for it not the boards.


sure... calling my mom a drug addict is wonderful


and KM, come on, there are varying degrees of flame, dont get ridiculous.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on August 19, 2005, 03:44:49 AM
Well you brought this so kindly to us, now what do you expect us to do about it?


Almost everyone already knows stuff like this is going on, so if you made this thread just so that we are aware of this particular situation, you have accomplished nothing.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:45:22 AM
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Originally posted by wildguy3922
He's not going to get banned.

HAHA!! yes he is!


After ALLL of the stuff that Raffles did, he didn't get banned for a LOOONGGG time. Raffles sent me all kinds of flaming pms. I pmed alex about it, and he didn't respond. Three months later, alex is fed up with it and bans him for another reason.

The chance of Osmose getting totally banned is slim. Besides, we don't want him banned, we only want him to grow up.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:46:26 AM
Just to bring it to your attention is all i intended, but I was angered when it was dissmissed as nothing.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:47:42 AM
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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Well you brought this so kindly to us, now what do you expect us to do about it?


Almost everyone already knows stuff like this is going on, so if you made this thread just so that we are aware of this particular situation, you have accomplished nothing.


We were only wanting Osmose to open his eyes. This thread is not a mission for getting people in trouble or banned.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 03:47:57 AM
Ban request made. You can at least expect a almost banned status.
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 03:48:42 AM
alright then

congratulations.
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Post by: Relentless Soulscar on August 19, 2005, 03:49:44 AM
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Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Well you brought this so kindly to us, now what do you expect us to do about it?


Almost everyone already knows stuff like this is going on, so if you made this thread just so that we are aware of this particular situation, you have accomplished nothing.

Not true, I (and I'm supposing others aswell) feel a tad diffirent about Osmose now.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:49:55 AM
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Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki
Ban request made. You can at least expect a almost banned status.


We weren't expecting anything from anybody except Osmose.
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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on August 19, 2005, 03:51:42 AM
Amazing how someone can't handle a little confrontation.

The situation is clear. This thread is an obvious attempt at sympathy. You may claim that was not your intent, but it is. I'm not defending either side on this issue, but grow some balls and take it in stride. Don't moan about a personal issue or confrontation, especially if the intent is to turn people on someone.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 03:53:33 AM
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Originally posted by Rune_of_Punishment
Amazing how someone can't handle a little confrontation.

The situation is clear. This thread is an obvious attempt at sympathy. You may claim that was not your intent, but it is. I'm not defending either side on this issue, but grow some balls and take it in stride. Don't moan about a personal issue or confrontation, especially if the intent is to turn people on someone.


This problem has been going on for longer than you know. But none of us want this to go any further.
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on August 19, 2005, 04:03:29 AM
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Originally posted by Rune_of_Punishment
Amazing how someone can't handle a little confrontation.

The situation is clear. This thread is an obvious attempt at sympathy. You may claim that was not your intent, but it is. I'm not defending either side on this issue, but grow some balls and take it in stride. Don't moan about a personal issue or confrontation, especially if the intent is to turn people on someone.



Perhaps his intent was to obtain justice.

You can't turn to a victim of rape and tell them not to bring the confrontation to light and grow some balls because it's a "personal issue".  Think about it people.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 04:05:55 AM
he was a victim more of a victim of verbal harrasment not rape o.0
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on August 19, 2005, 04:08:33 AM
For those that couldn't recognize it, that was an analogy.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 04:10:33 AM
i know what it was, and sorry, but a VERY bad anology.

the closest anology o what happen to charaman is verbal harrasment not rape.. rape would've been more of the line osmose PMng a bunch of porn to charaman XD
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Post by: shinotebasiiackh on August 19, 2005, 04:12:58 AM
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i know what it was, and sorry, but a VERY bad anology.

the closest anology o what happen to charaman is verbal harrasment not rape.. rape would've been more of the line osmose PMng a bunch of porn to charaman XD


Memories of Osmose PMing a picture of Solidsnake with jizz on his face to SnakeEater comes to mind.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 04:15:43 AM
 
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Memories of Osmose PMing a picture of Solidsnake with jizz on his face to SnakeEater comes to mind.


0_0!!!
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Post by: Relentless Soulscar on August 19, 2005, 04:19:57 AM
What the? Ha, now hes done all that raffles has.
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on August 19, 2005, 04:21:23 AM
Explain how using verbal harrasment would have been better.

Either way, Osmose was wrong for what he did and Charaman shouldn't have to put up with it.

And my analogy works anyways since rape doesn't always refer to sexual acts. Rape also refers to abusive treatment, physical or not.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 04:22:41 AM
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Originally posted by SnakeIzeGambit
Explain how using verbal harrasment would have been better.

Either way, Osmose was wrong for what he did and Charaman shouldn't have to put up with it.

And my analogy works anyways since rape doesn't always refer to sexual acts. Rape also refers to abusive treatment, physical or not.


0.0 WHERE is THAT on the dictionary???
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 04:23:27 AM
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Originally posted by SnakeIzeGambit
Explain how using verbal harrasment would have been better.

Either way, Osmose was wrong for what he did and Charaman shouldn't have to put up with it.

And my analogy works anyways since rape doesn't always refer to sexual acts. Rape also refers to abusive treatment, physical or not.


That arguement is done and over with. Explaining it anymore would only drag it further.
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on August 19, 2005, 04:24:53 AM
Actually it didn't take long to find.


1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.

2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.

3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice



edit: and wildguy i actually started to type that when i read Kijuki's response, went to the bathroom and finished. So yes I was a little late, but who cares? I don't.
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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on August 19, 2005, 04:25:14 AM
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Originally posted by SnakeIzeGambit
Explain how using verbal harrasment would have been better.

Either way, Osmose was wrong for what he did and Charaman shouldn't have to put up with it.

And my analogy works anyways since rape doesn't always refer to sexual acts. Rape also refers to abusive treatment, physical or not.


Incorrect. But I won't get into that. There are certain things that bringing light to is acceptable. But for Christ's sake, this is a miniscule problem over the INTERNET. Big whoop. If charaman did not care about Osmose's opinion, this topic would not be up.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 04:26:29 AM
I suggest making a new topic about analogies instead.
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 04:27:44 AM
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Originally posted by SnakeIzeGambit
Actually it didn't take long to find.


1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.

2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.

3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice


Ah ok, then your correct in that behalf, however the rape word on your anology was intended toward the sexual act. THOOOOO im not saing is wrong anymore, you have corrected me on that part of the thingy.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 04:29:37 AM
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I suggest making a new topic about analogies instead.


Or not, who listens to me anyways.
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Post by: shinotebasiiackh on August 19, 2005, 04:30:41 AM
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I suggest making a new topic about analogies instead.


Or not, who listens to me anyways.


What?
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Post by: Kijuki_Magazaki on August 19, 2005, 04:32:25 AM
Anyway i believe i am now allowed to lock the thread.
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Post by: SnakeIzeGambit on August 19, 2005, 04:33:22 AM
I for one am happy that Charaman has brought this to light because Osmose has long been flaming others behind closed doors. I have a saved conversation myself that was shown to me. If it was between me and him I would have shown it too.
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Post by: shinotebasiiackh on August 19, 2005, 04:40:04 AM
I would hope that anyone would have. He's been doing this **** for way too long now.
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Post by: kodakumi on August 19, 2005, 04:40:48 AM
Wow, im sure you (charaman) and osmose are both in the bad.


arent these threads inapropriote for charas forums (promotion of argument).


ps: though it doesnt work when i do it... *locked*
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Post by: shinotebasiiackh on August 19, 2005, 04:43:57 AM
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Originally posted by kodakumi

arent these threads inapropriote for charas forums (promotion of argument).


Seince when has pointing out that a member is abusive been not OK?


Like flaming someone over a long period of time is?



Edit: Kijuki, I think we should keep this open long enough for Osmose to come in and try to explain himself.
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Post by: carmen on August 19, 2005, 04:44:33 AM
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Originally posted by kodakumi
Wow, im sure you (charaman) and osmose are both in the bad.


arent these threads inapropriote for charas forums (promotion of argument).


ps: though it doesnt work when i do it... *locked*


the most sense I've seen in this thread yet,....and you think we got enough google ads?

EDIT: I can keep it open too ^_-, I'm frontline def in this forum my man
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Post by: kodakumi on August 19, 2005, 05:06:10 AM
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Originally posted by carmen
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Originally posted by kodakumi
Wow, im sure you (charaman) and osmose are both in the bad.


arent these threads inapropriote for charas forums (promotion of argument).


ps: though it doesnt work when i do it... *locked*


the most sense I've seen in this thread yet,....and you think we got enough google ads?

EDIT: I can keep it open too ^_-, I'm frontline def in this forum my man


alrighty :)
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Post by: SaiKar on August 19, 2005, 05:26:50 AM
CHARAMAN! What in the stars do you think you're doing? How DARE you attack Kijuki like that! He's doing the best he can with a mostly inactive moderation staff and a full list of real-life concerns to worry about. The last thing he needs is you storming in here and swearing at him about your self-centered concerns.

I am not going to ban Osmose. I don't care if Kujuki caved and said he will be banned. I don't care if you guys accuse me of sticking up for my friend. I'm just not going to do it. If you don't want to get harassed by someone: guess what. Stop opening private messages from them and replying. And take your ego elsewhere. No one cares if you make idle threats or not.

Alex wanted banning to be used as a last resort. A LAST RESORT! Only the most vile people that desire to bring Charas down are to be banned. Personal disagreements in private messages do not count! You, as a member of this board, have NO RIGHT to demand the banning of anyone else, PERIOD. Get off your ego trip. Everyone has people that dislike them. My guess is this post will get me a few people that dislike me. But it's necessary to set the standard here and now.

I'm going to go to bed, and I might check this tomorrow, or I might not. But in the meantime I uge you all to consider your positions. You are visitors on this forum that are allowed here by the grace of Alex the webmaster. You don't demand anything of your host. You follow his rules, and you follow the rules of his subbordonates, or you get the heck out.
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 19, 2005, 05:31:43 AM
Man I love charas!
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Post by: Spike21 on August 19, 2005, 05:59:11 AM
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Originally posted by AsakuraHao2004
Man I love charas!


same here bro same here (that sounded cheesy)
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Post by: Relentless Soulscar on August 19, 2005, 06:03:09 AM
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Originally posted by AsakuraHao2004
Man I love charas!

LMAO...
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Post by: carmen on August 19, 2005, 06:16:41 AM
awe sai'kar!  *like total thumbs up dude*
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Post by: Drace on August 19, 2005, 09:58:26 AM
My god. I go and play a game instead being at the crowded Charas and looks what happens. Jeeze.
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Post by: maxine on August 19, 2005, 10:13:06 AM
hahah 6 pages that fast !... Damn where were i under the time of this.
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Post by: Moosetroop11 on August 19, 2005, 10:23:50 AM
Meh, Osmose has always been efil.
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Post by: Ace of Spades on August 19, 2005, 10:38:02 AM
There should be a "Block PMs" feature. That would be a better solution to his problem with Osmose, since private messages are   private.
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Post by: Osmose on August 19, 2005, 10:40:03 AM
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Originally posted by Ace of Spades
There should be a "Block PMs" feature. That would be a better solution to his problem with Osmose, since private messages are   private.


I like how he thinks.
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Post by: Pythis on August 19, 2005, 10:49:12 AM
And then some grudge holding moron hacks the system and continues to torment his victom.
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Post by: Razor on August 19, 2005, 11:20:35 AM
WTF. SERIOUSLY.

I'm gone for 12 hours and this is what happens?!

Anyway, the only problem I see is that Osmose kept on going when he should have stopped. The end.
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Post by: Drace on August 19, 2005, 02:27:17 PM
*Wipes away a single tear*

What a beautifull ending. I must get the DVD when it gets released.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 19, 2005, 02:53:33 PM
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Originally posted by charaman
Osmose was just as immature, if not more immature than raffles with it. Do i need to be harassed, whether it be a thread or Pm, its still charas.


I tried to end it, and he continued Pming me.


Not once, NOT ONCE, did me or Charaman ask for anyone to be banned. I was there for the entire arguement. All it I saw when I read through it again was ignorance.

I've been attack before by PMs, but not like that. And it's Charaman's fault?????????????????
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Post by: GaryCXJk on August 19, 2005, 03:11:23 PM
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Originally posted by Kijuki_Magazaki
We did ignore him. But he's no longer bothering me or the moderation team, but the whole board; that is something i cannot allow as an administrator, and something i cannot allow more importantly as a member.
No, we did NOT ignore him.
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Post by: Rikushinblade on August 19, 2005, 03:26:55 PM
Man its like every topic i go to has to have this....stop posting this dude move on with ur life no one is planing to take anyones side so please stop :(
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Post by: Trevlac on August 19, 2005, 03:45:33 PM
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Originally posted by SaiKar
CHARAMAN! What in the stars do you think you're doing? How DARE you attack Kijuki like that! He's doing the best he can with a mostly inactive moderation staff and a full list of real-life concerns to worry about. The last thing he needs is you storming in here and swearing at him about your self-centered concerns.

I am not going to ban Osmose. I don't care if Kujuki caved and said he will be banned. I don't care if you guys accuse me of sticking up for my friend. I'm just not going to do it. If you don't want to get harassed by someone: guess what. Stop opening private messages from them and replying. And take your ego elsewhere. No one cares if you make idle threats or not.

Alex wanted banning to be used as a last resort. A LAST RESORT! Only the most vile people that desire to bring Charas down are to be banned. Personal disagreements in private messages do not count! You, as a member of this board, have NO RIGHT to demand the banning of anyone else, PERIOD. Get off your ego trip. Everyone has people that dislike them. My guess is this post will get me a few people that dislike me. But it's necessary to set the standard here and now.

I'm going to go to bed, and I might check this tomorrow, or I might not. But in the meantime I uge you all to consider your positions. You are visitors on this forum that are allowed here by the grace of Alex the webmaster. You don't demand anything of your host. You follow his rules, and you follow the rules of his subbordonates, or you get the heck out.


Sai'Kar, you're losing it, man.  You're my friend but I have to say Osmose was my friend too, and there is no excuse to flame someone on Charas,  PM or not, friend or not.  I think that because Osmose cleverly does it off the main threads, the believes he'll get away with it.  And he has, and he is.  Good job everyone, you let another Raffles in.

I'm ndefinetly not saying "ban Osmose" that's rediculous.  Simply *because* he's kept it off of the main forums do I believe him to not get banned.  But I think an "almost yes" is in order ESPECIALLY considering who DID get the "almost yes" status and who did NOT.

VahnGrave
AsakuraHao

Neither of them deserve it, and if either of them do, so does charaman (as he stated himself).  I'm not sticking up for them, and again, I srupport Alex's decisions, but I'm trying to open your eyes to what Alex seems to consider "almost yes" worthy; Osmose fits this bill to a "T".

And charaman, I think it took a lot of guts to post this here because you knew you could get rideculed for it; I admire that.  Just don't go attacking Admins, wrong or right.  Same reason you don't go telling your school Principal or your Professor to shove it.

Goat-person-member-thingy-yeah....um, I dislike that you want to reduce everything down to your own favorable terms ("if it's between posting pornography and someone who hurt your feelings, I think there's no contest") and then giving someone 2 choices, thereby duping any members that read that into taking your side.  That's the same tactics Raffles uses, clever word manipulation.  I dunno if you did it on purpose, but it made me mad nonetheless.

Personally, I think flamming should be an almost yes offense and pornography should be a bannable offense.  But that's my opinion, and the way I run TDR doesn't affect charas.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on August 19, 2005, 05:20:40 PM
Hm, so flaming in PMs is allowed just because itīs PRIVATE? Nice, Iīll start doing it then...

Charaman did the right thing to bring this up, specially because itīs the moderation-administration job to punish anyone who disturbs peaceful members, but it takes a long time for it to happen, when it does.

What would the right solution be? PM Saikar or Alex and get no response?

So, being bad, or good member doesnīt really matter, just because no oneīs getting punished...

Thatīs nice. But something sounds really wrong here...

Iīm good, cause I donīt bring problems, but it kinda hurts to see...
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Post by: GaryCXJk on August 19, 2005, 06:16:17 PM
Actually, flaming per PM is not okay, or else we should unban the people who insulted some members on this forum. Or is that called herassing?
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Post by: WingZero on August 19, 2005, 06:29:26 PM
when you flame throug PM you should get an almost yes status because is still flaming if you do it public youll get completely bannned status.
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Post by: SaiKar on August 19, 2005, 06:54:06 PM
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Originally posted by Almeidaboo
Charaman did the right thing to bring this up, specially because itīs the moderation-administration job to punish anyone who disturbs peaceful members, but it takes a long time for it to happen, when it does.


That's not the mod's job. Our job is to make sure things are running smoothly and to settle disputes. But when someone just starts yelling "OMG BAN THEM" they don't want to talk. They just want to use the moderators as a weapon against the other person. That's not how the game works. If you want your problems solved, you have to be willing to talk with both the moderators or the people that are bothering you. Otherwise nothing will really get acomplished.

And, let's face it, private message logs are easy to fake. I can't read them. Neither can DF, Kijuki, Carmen, or any of the other mods. We're just taking your word for it.

For example....

{Almeidaboo}
dude i'm going to come over to your house and kill your dog and your brother
{Me}
What? I don't have a dog or a brother and you don't know where I live.
{Almeidaboo}
yeah i know haha i'll be right there in ten minutes better lock your door

Which is, of course, a total fake made up by me right now, but how can you PROVE it's a fake? How can you PROVE its real? You can't.

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So, being bad, or good member doesnīt really matter, just because no oneīs getting punished...


Actually, it does matter. Good members get their requests done quickly, have lots of people comment on their game ideas, and may even become moderators at some point. "Bad" people get ignored. Charas isn't just a place to hang out. Everyone needs help at some point in their game, and if you're a jerk, then no one will do your requests or care about your game.
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Post by: Rune_of_Punishment on August 19, 2005, 07:31:25 PM
Charaman egged on Osmose, provoked him to continue. In the end, the situation is stupid. Besides, if you don't like the PM, why bother replying and why bother reading it?
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Post by: Bart_Fatima on August 19, 2005, 07:46:33 PM
Woah! This is crazy, okay look,  like my man ROP said  why did you even provoke him in the first place, you could have easily dropped the conversation and if you did ignore him then this wouldn't have happend so its practically your fault
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Post by: Drighton on August 19, 2005, 07:49:50 PM
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Originally posted by Ace of Spades
There should be a "Block PMs" feature. That would be a better solution to his problem with Osmose, since private messages are   private.


It seems the suggestion to have a PM blocking option is a very resolute solution, though ignoring a PM is also simple. YES, even if your spammed.

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And then some grudge holding moron hacks the system and continues to torment his victom.


Hacking a website would invariably get someone banned in my experience.  :badboy:
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Post by: AsakuraHao2004 on August 19, 2005, 07:55:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ace of Spades
There should be a "Block PMs" feature. That would be a better solution to his problem with Osmose, since private messages are   private.


It seems the suggestion to have a PM blocking option is a very resolute solution, though ignoring a PM is also simple. YES, even if your spammed.

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And then some grudge holding moron hacks the system and continues to torment his victom.


Hacking a website would invariably get someone banned in my experience.  :badboy:


If you can hack the site in the first place, you should know how to get yourself unbanned. Although I wouldnt be surprised if one day I come to charas and it says "Sorry, this site hacked by so and so..."
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Post by: dragoninja on August 19, 2005, 08:48:50 PM
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Actually, it does matter. Good members get their requests done quickly, have lots of people comment on their game ideas, and may even become moderators at some point. "Bad" people get ignored. Charas isn't just a place to hang out. Everyone needs help at some point in their game, and if you're a jerk, then no one will do your requests or care about your game.

Wow, fine selceted words, I thought it was the other way around... atleast that's what it seemes like... I'm not saying that bad poeple becomes Mods, but they tend to always get their way... somehow...
take me for example, I always tend to be the "good" guy belive it or not and I always help if I can even though it's not much I can do, while someother poeple who is the "bad" poeple almost always gets their way without haveing to do too much...

Anyways: I cannot recall anyone attacking any admin while reading through this thread. then again it might just be me not having read everything... If indeed Charman was PM flamed by Osmose then why shouldn't he report it to an mod or Admin? after all admins and mods are the one responsible to keep the peace here on charas, I'm not saying that the Admins and mods are making a lousy job to keep the peace... although Charaman, making a thread about it was quite childish... I mean C'mon! how old are you really? let's leave it at that. can we lock this thread to prevent any more arguments?
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Post by: Trevlac on August 19, 2005, 09:15:27 PM
Ignored...again.

No really, I'd like a response from Sai'Kar, charaman, and mr. goat-person. (Sorry, don't remember your name)
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Post by: charaman on August 19, 2005, 09:30:37 PM
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can we lock this thread to prevent any more arguments?


Locking doesnt prevent, just hide.


I would love to be able to go to the mods and admins about it, but whenever i have PMed them in the past, it is either brushed aside, or not even dignified with a reply.


And to Trev, Saikar, KM, and others: I was not attacking KM with that post, and I'm sorry it came across that way. That just is the way it feels to me.



And for the last time: I do not want Osmose banned!
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Post by: Goatulon on August 19, 2005, 09:31:37 PM
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Originally posted by Trevlac
Ignored...again.

No really, I'd like a response from Sai'Kar, charaman, and mr. goat-person. (Sorry, don't remember your name)


Its ok, nobody remembers my name, but I sent you a PM, I dont know what you want from me, but I'm sure if you'd clarify it for me I'll be glad to tell you. Sorry if its obvious, I'm just slow.
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Post by: dragoninja on August 19, 2005, 09:53:13 PM
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can we lock this thread to prevent any more arguments?


Locking doesnt prevent, just hide.

well it's better then nothing... I guess... let's just call it a start shall we?

oh yeah, he did never say he wanted Osmose Banned... I've dubble searched it, can't find it anywhere (-_-')
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Post by: shinotebasiiackh on August 19, 2005, 10:30:43 PM
I'm not quite sure what to think anymore, but I trust Sai'Kar's judgement.
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Post by: Drace on August 19, 2005, 10:35:35 PM
You know what I think?! I think that, the startrooper needs to get laid.
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Post by: Trevlac on August 19, 2005, 10:50:26 PM
You know what I think? I think that members should stop ignoring people that contribute to a problem's solution and stop replying to people who cause the problems.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 19, 2005, 11:03:16 PM
You know what I think? Drace... RP... NOW!! XP
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Post by: Drace on August 19, 2005, 11:40:32 PM
RP? Wait, you mean Pest Control? *smacks forehead* I knew I forgot something.
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Post by: Almeidaboo on August 20, 2005, 12:55:47 AM
Dunno Sai, for real...this' all too weird.

And, for the record, Iīd never kill your dog...
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Post by: shinotebasiiackh on August 20, 2005, 02:23:31 AM
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You know what I think?! I think that, the startrooper needs to get laid.


Oh yeah, violate that air!
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 20, 2005, 03:00:54 AM
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Ignored...again.

No really, I'd like a response from Sai'Kar, charaman, and mr. goat-person. (Sorry, don't remember your name)


The truth is, you shouldn't even try, because you know you're going to be ignored anyway, that's why I stopped arguing. I'm too pissed off because of a lot of people's ignorance.

NOTE TO EVERYONE IN CHARAS


If you ever get flamed through PM's, the mods suggest that you just take it.

If you trust their judgement, be my guest. There's never going to be a resistance to it, because they won't be able to do anything.
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Post by: Pythis on August 20, 2005, 03:26:59 AM
Even if you thought you couldn't take it..who gives a damn? He called you a few names this is 2nd grade stuff who cares? You know it's not true. I'm not trying to flame or argue but this would have never happened if you had stopped replying, not care about waht he said because you obviously know it's not true.
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Post by: Weregnome on August 20, 2005, 04:11:43 AM
ok I've read through and I have a few things to say.

Trevlac, very wise words my friends. U should definately be put back as a mod.

Sai, I agree in the sense that Osmose shouldn't get banned, only on the basis that there is no DIRECT proof. Yes, we have what Charaman said, but it can not be proved that it is a real pm. I do feel he needs the almost banned, cos Vahn and Asakura did **** all to get almost banned.

Kijkuki I don't have much to say, I know you said u want Osmose banned. I persoannly think it was to edge charaman on to what he wanted, so I don't feel u really did anything wrong. Just, please do things slighty calmer. We don't want a mod not taking some type of control. Also if u see my words as incorredt, please pm me instead of saying here, and we solve any problems in an intellectual calm way.

Goatulan u made a comment and pronography and harrassment. Yes they are different. porn immediate ban, harsh comments no.

Gary your words have been correct.

On the whole, I feel that this situation is stupid. Yes Osmose is being an immature arse. Ignore him. If u ignore him we won't have another "raffles". I don't mind Osmose, nor did i mind Raffles. Ignoring is the best step. Also, a few words of advice: build up all the pms he sents which are harassing, DON'T respond. Build up a case before u attack, thats if he has continued.

Thats all I have to say. Just ignore those who be fools.

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Post by: PyroAlchemist on August 20, 2005, 04:15:42 AM
I thought that Trevlac wasn't really a mod :|  And may I ask where all of this is going? I got lost.
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Post by: Weregnome on August 20, 2005, 05:55:04 AM
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I thought that Trevlac wasn't really a mod :|  And may I ask where all of this is going? I got lost.


who truly knows. I read through and found: ban omose, not bann osmose, make a pm blocker and an alomost bannede fro osmose
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Post by: Razor on August 20, 2005, 07:46:02 AM
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*Wipes away a single tear*

What a beautifull ending. I must get the DVD when it gets released.

ROFL Drace STFU man! :)
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Post by: Drace on August 20, 2005, 01:39:53 PM
What? You want a copy too?
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Post by: Razor on August 20, 2005, 02:23:28 PM
Only if it has the directors commentary.
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Post by: Drace on August 20, 2005, 02:34:54 PM
It not only has directors commentary, it also has actors commentary, deleted scenes, the making of, interviews, sketches, art and trailers.
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Post by: charaman on August 20, 2005, 08:11:23 PM
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Sai, I agree in the sense that Osmose shouldn't get banned, only on the basis that there is no DIRECT proof. Yes, we have what Charaman said, but it can not be proved that it is a real pm.

just to prove beyond any doubt, but, whatever. Just showing. not any bad feelings about it.
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Post by: Weregnome on August 21, 2005, 12:00:56 AM
well i casn say thats quite a bit of evidence.
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Post by: wildguy3922 on August 21, 2005, 01:18:10 AM
Well, I guess that proves that.
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Post by: Osmose on August 21, 2005, 02:19:45 AM
 :D
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Post by: Trevlac on August 21, 2005, 02:26:57 AM
When I saw charaman's screenshot, I believed it (still do) but I didn't point out the blatently obvious fact that Moose has just done.
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Post by: Darkfox on August 21, 2005, 02:29:38 AM
OMG! Sai'Kar! XD
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Post by: charaman on August 21, 2005, 02:38:26 AM
...

what can I say, I love me them weenies.
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Post by: SaiKar on August 21, 2005, 08:11:46 AM
My user name is SaiKar, not Sai'Kar, but that makes me smile happy none the less.
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Post by: Trevlac on August 21, 2005, 08:58:16 AM
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what can I say, I love me them weenies.


I quote myself:

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Post by: ~*Sweet Ichifo*~ on August 21, 2005, 09:28:52 AM
@Osmose: XDDD, pure genius.
@Saikar:.........Or IS it? O_o You could've hacked Alex's account and went in and changed it you know. =3
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Post by: RPG LORD on August 21, 2005, 10:08:19 AM
Seems he edited the image
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Post by: Robotam on August 21, 2005, 10:30:32 AM
Charaman could give for an example me his password and I could go in a print the screen too? Now wouldn't that be proof enough?
Now why would I fake it when I barely know charaman?
I'm not saying it has to be me, maybe some admin or something.
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Post by: Razor on August 21, 2005, 11:42:40 AM
or Charaman could give me his account, and I could launch nuclear bombs with it, and only it. for he holds the true power within his account and - oh sorry, I'm rambling.
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Post by: Drace on August 21, 2005, 02:08:52 PM
Moose: XD