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TESTING & WELCOME BOARD => Test & welcome board => Topic started by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 07:49:26 PM

Title: WTF?
Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 07:49:26 PM
I just saw that some guy came on named Meisnotcool and took my profile and avatar and etc.

That wasn't me. I just got home from school 10 minutes ago. I don't type like: Hey, this place is cool hi! And I know it's against the rules to have duel accounts.

Those of you that know me know I have a fetish with pissing off noobs, thus I have many enemies, so it's probally one of them doing this. I request imediate banning of this "poser" and hope that people will believe me here. You all know my idea of funny, and that is not something I would find humorous.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on January 31, 2006, 07:59:01 PM
 
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Those of you that know me know I have a fetish with pissing off noobs, thus I have many enemies, so it's probally one of them doing this. I request imediate banning of this "poser" and hope that people will believe me here. You all know my idea of funny, and that is not something I would find humorous.


So let me get this straight, some noob is pissing you off, so you want him banned? And err, its prefectly alright if you piss them off? You're argument is a little one sided I think. I don't agree with making another account thats simular to yours, but theres no rules against it.

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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 08:00:45 PM
Yes, but when I piss them off, I'm not breaking a rule. I believe that SaiKar made it very apperent that there is to be no copying accounts when Ace copied his, am I right?
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Post by: Drace on January 31, 2006, 08:03:16 PM
It'sa Raffles! Run to da hills Luigi!
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Post by: drenrin2120 on January 31, 2006, 08:03:20 PM
well, maybe a mod sohuld check IPs? to see if it was not only meiscool, but some suspect newbs. I think maybe you should check noobpwner's IP. Just to be sure.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 08:06:46 PM
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Originally posted by drenrin2120
well, maybe a mod sohuld check IPs? to see if it was not only meiscool, but some suspect newbs. I think maybe you should check noobpwner's IP. Just to be sure.


Yeah, now that I think of it, only him and Archem2 have used that whole "Meisnotcool" thing. The rest of you guys have been clever enough to think something else up. And I know it wasn't Archem because we've put aside our differences via PMs.

Darkfox has been contacted.
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Post by: Razor on January 31, 2006, 08:12:32 PM
Quite clearly this second account was made to annoy Meiscool and Meiscool alone, and it would beyond doubt to say it was made by one of the people who have found him annoying.

Since this account is both an attack on a user, a double user AND probably never going to be used, I'd suggest deletion. But only Alex can do that.

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Post by: coasterkrazy on January 31, 2006, 08:17:54 PM
I'm surprised so many people jumped to the conclusion that it was Meiscool. My first thought was also that it was one of those people that got mad.
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Post by: Cerebus on January 31, 2006, 09:06:53 PM
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I'm surprised so many people jumped to the conclusion that it was Meiscool. My first thought was also that it was one of those people that got mad.


You're probably right. Anyway, I don't think Meiscool would start another account to make fun of himself...
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Post by: Revolution911 on January 31, 2006, 09:47:46 PM
....Just leave it alone, no ones gunna use it.
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Post by: Razor on January 31, 2006, 09:53:33 PM
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Originally posted by Revolution911
....Just leave it alone, no ones gunna use it. (http://charas-project.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=15529&forumid=2&catid=2)


btw, that quote is clickable
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Post by: Revolution911 on January 31, 2006, 09:54:36 PM
Well like...its not a big deal. Seriously, dont be a little bitch about it =/
You piss people off everyday, dont complain.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on January 31, 2006, 10:01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Meiscool
Yes, but when I **** them off, I'm not breaking a rule. I believe that SaiKar made it very apperent that there is to be no copying accounts when Ace copied his, am I right?


From the rules:

 
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No Flaming

If you brutelly attack or make fun of another poster without backing your opinions with valid facts and constructive words, you are flaming. Flaming isn't tolerated and frequent offenders will be banned.


So actually yeah, most of the time when you piss off a noob, you flame them, thus you are breaking a rule.

I don't think its right for the copy account or anything, I just find it funny that you got pissed off at this, however you enjoy doing the same to almost every noob that comes along. Sure you didn't do the same thing, but you do 'same' as in piss them off.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on January 31, 2006, 10:06:02 PM
idk about you guys, but he seems pretty calm to me. He was just defending himself, even if he does deserve it.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 10:07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Meiscool
Yes, but when I **** them off, I'm not breaking a rule. I believe that SaiKar made it very apperent that there is to be no copying accounts when Ace copied his, am I right?


From the rules:

 
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No Flaming

If you brutelly attack or make fun of another poster without backing your opinions with valid facts and constructive words, you are flaming. Flaming isn't tolerated and frequent offenders will be banned.


So actually yeah, most of the time when you **** off a noob, you flame them, thus you are breaking a rule.

I don't think its right for the copy account or anything, I just find it funny that you got pissed off at this, however you enjoy doing the same to almost every noob that comes along. Sure you didn't do the same thing, but you do 'same' as in **** them off.


I always back my opinions, dur. Lookit this one for example:

Noob: Hey guys! I have a game called savior and I need 2 coders and a mapper! thanks.

Meiscool: You my friend are like the countless other noobs on here with less then 50 posts that say they have a game and need help on it without posting any info at all. We're (Meaning I am and possibly other people) sick of people such as yourself.

Noob: Ok Meisnotcool! Here's the plot!:
Princess gets kid nappered, you save her

Meiscool: That plot is cliche beyond comepare and sucks, get a new one or don't make the game at all

Noob: _veryangry_  Oh yeah! Here's a screen! _veryangry_

Meiscool: People hate games with RTP, your maps suck, and your font needs to be fixed.

Noob: You're just jealous of my game making powers!!!!!!!

All those "Flames you call them" are backed up with real facts. Thus, avoiding your petty attempt to belittle me. Not my problem if they get pissed off by the truth.
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Post by: Revolution911 on January 31, 2006, 10:09:08 PM
But often its just you being a dick >.>
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 10:11:36 PM
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But often its just you being a dick >.>


The truth hurts. Again, not my problem if they can't handle someone bluntly telling them that fangames suck and ect rather then putting it in a subtle fashion like: I would suggest not making a game about Starwars because people usually don't like them as much as an original game.
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Post by: Noobpwner on January 31, 2006, 10:19:19 PM
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Originally posted by drenrin2120
well, maybe a mod sohuld check IPs? to see if it was not only meiscool, but some suspect newbs. I think maybe you should check noobpwner's IP. Just to be sure.


actualy it couldn'y nbe me ive been grounded awhile...  STUPID HOMEWORK!

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Yes, but when I **** them off, I'm not breaking a rule. I believe that SaiKar made it very apperent that there is to be no copying accounts when Ace copied his, am I right?


From the rules:

 
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No Flaming

If you brutelly attack or make fun of another poster without backing your opinions with valid facts and constructive words, you are flaming. Flaming isn't tolerated and frequent offenders will be banned.


So actually yeah, most of the time when you **** off a noob, you flame them, thus you are breaking a rule.

I don't think its right for the copy account or anything, I just find it funny that you got pissed off at this, however you enjoy doing the same to almost every noob that comes along. Sure you didn't do the same thing, but you do 'same' as in **** them off.


I always back my opinions, dur. Lookit this one for example:

Noob: Hey guys! I have a game called savior and I need 2 coders and a mapper! thanks.

Meiscool: You my friend are like the countless other noobs on here with less then 50 posts that say they have a game and need help on it without posting any info at all. We're (Meaning I am and possibly other people) sick of people such as yourself.

Noob: Ok Meisnotcool! Here's the plot!:
Princess gets kid nappered, you save her

Meiscool: That plot is cliche beyond comepare and sucks, get a new one or don't make the game at all

Noob: _veryangry_  Oh yeah! Here's a screen! _veryangry_

Meiscool: People hate games with RTP, your maps suck, and your font needs to be fixed.

Noob: You're just jealous of my game making powers!!!!!!!

All those "Flames you call them" are backed up with real facts. Thus, avoiding your petty attempt to belittle me. Not my problem if they get pissed off by the truth.


that actualy kind of sound like me... lmao
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Post by: MrMister on January 31, 2006, 10:23:45 PM
ZEE OH EM GEE
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Post by: Meisnotcool on January 31, 2006, 10:24:58 PM
I'm not Meiscool. I'm not noopwner.
Meiscool, you can be a dick some time. You sometime flame and say you don't. You make me laugh.
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Post by: Noobpwner on January 31, 2006, 10:26:04 PM
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Originally posted by Meisnotcool
I'm not Meiscool. I'm not noopwner.
Meiscool, you can be a dick some time. You sometime flame and say you don't. You make me laugh.

well your even a bigger noob then i am!(and Im a pretty big noob)

SO GO TO HELLL

Even though meiscool was an *** to me It doesnt matter cause your sucha ****ing retard it hurts!!!
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 10:28:20 PM
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Originally posted by Meisnotcool
I'm not Meiscool. I'm not noopwner.
Meiscool, you can be a dick some time. You sometime flame and say you don't. You make me laugh.


Glad to hear you can laugh at childish insults, bet you're the kinda guy that hears the word poop at school and screams out in delight.


To DB: ZOMG that's an example of a Flame. I didn't mean it in any way, thus, loophole because I'm showing it to you as an example.
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Post by: Meisnotcool on January 31, 2006, 10:38:51 PM
No, I'm not that kind of guy. And, you shouldn't be pissed. This wasn't an insult to you. Just an unfunny joke. Sorry for making you worries.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on January 31, 2006, 10:40:22 PM
 
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All those "Flames you call them" are backed up with real facts. Thus, avoiding your petty attempt to belittle me. Not my problem if they get pissed off by the truth.


XD, I'm laughing here because there is so many things wrong with what you said and how you think you can treat noobs. Those reasons aren't nearly good enough for what you say. Go ahead, be honest, say things like their game sucks, but say it in a way that isn't meant to hurt them. I think the definition of flaming should be expanded to intentionally trying to hurt someone or piss them off, because basically thats exactly what it is. On many other forums, you'd get warned maybe even banned for your continious bashes on noobs.

The reason I'm really getting into this is because of the fact that I've gotten numerious PMs from various members, often noobs, thanking me for defending their game, 90% of the time, they even mention your name. A lot of times, they often write back to ask me to defend them again if you start flaming them again, and if they haven't flamed back at all or started acting immaturely, I will. When I defend a game, I never just go, "you're game looks good". I tell them what I like about it, I tell them what I don't like about it, and I give them suggestions on how to fix them. Then of course, I'll ask the people bashing their game to stop.

You know, normally I'm not the kind of guy to say anything in a topic like this especially if you haven't done anything to me yet. But I believe I owe it to all of the people who have sent me PMs and to all the people you flamed/bashed or in anyway hurt, to speak my mind.

You always act as if you're superiour to newer members and put them down because they're not as good as you at mapping, rpg maker, or what not. You don't even give a serious effort to help people with their games if you think they suck. I don't know what world you come from where you think its alright to say whatever you want to another person, because its not. You should have enough respect for other people to not bash them the way you do. Believe it or not, it doesn't accomplish anything besides turn people away from rpg maker and these forums. If you were talking to adults, it wouldn't matter so much because they can handle it, but most of the time new members are just kids, flaming them and all will ruin their self-confidence. And a lot of times their not stable enough to not let it get to them.

Then we get back to this topic. Someome pisses you off and you want them banned.

You really have to grow up and act more maturely, and keep others feelings in mind.
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Post by: darkwyvern on January 31, 2006, 10:47:38 PM
BAM!!
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Post by: Noobpwner on January 31, 2006, 10:50:47 PM
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Then we get back to this topic. Someome pisses you off and you want them banned.

You really have to grow up and act more maturely, and keep others feelings in mind.[/B]



For once I agree with Miescool that this guy/girl shouldnt copy him because Miescool had made his profile by himself and this other guy just came and pretty much stole his creation.  So i think that Miesnotcool should like be kicked or something cause he is takiing something someone else made and using it as his own!
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Post by: darkwyvern on January 31, 2006, 10:53:49 PM
wow, cant believe you're defending some1 who treats you like ****
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 10:55:18 PM
Oh wow, moralistic protector, big whoop. Just because I say their game sucks, and DO point out what sucks in it and etc, and they go running to you means nothing. It just means that you're a nicer person then I am and have more tollerence to stupidity/low expectations then I do.

As for the mapping thing, I only act as a better in mapping because several people have told me I'm the best on charas (I still think Robotam is better then me though). If I can help someone by telling them what is wrong with their map IN MY OPINION, I'll do it. If their map sucks, I'll tell them. If it's good, I tell them. I mean, you don't see me ripping on Robotam do you for mapping, or you for coding as well? I don't like to answer questions as much as you do, my time is better spent doing other things. Perhaps you don't remember what it's like to be young, but I do, and I know that by telling a 10 yearold that coding takes time, math knowledge, graphing, etc, he'll give it a try, fail once, and never try again. I mean, have you ever heard back from any of the people that you've helped THAT HAVE LESS THEN 50 POSTS about how great their game is doing thanks to you? How properous it turned out? That they are still continuing it and need more coding aid? (I'm not talking about little things like a N/D system or something, but an ABS or CBS and etc)

Moralistic crusaders like yourself are great, but I really couldn't care less about how you treat someone compared to how I treat someone. You're a soft touch, I'm the guy that slams reality in their face.
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Post by: Noobpwner on January 31, 2006, 10:57:44 PM
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wow, cant believe you're defending some1 who treats you like ****


So what everyone has rights to what they create in hopes no one else will steal it.  What if yuo made a sweet rpg and someone went and hacked your computer took it and used it as there own I dont think youd like that so I think you should rethink how your thinking.
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Post by: charaman on January 31, 2006, 11:00:41 PM
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wow, cant believe you're defending some1 who treats you like ****


So what everyone has rights to what they create in hopes no one else will steal it.  What if yuo made a sweet rpg and someone went and hacked your computer took it and used it as there own I dont think youd like that so I think you should rethink how your thinking.


No one hacked his computer to make a parody of him. How is this any worse than FFL's "Alex's Evil Twin Brother"? I think you should rethink how you're thinking.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 11:02:49 PM
Well charaman.... that Ava was custom made using photoshop... but meh, it's the internet, so nothing is safe from being stolen.
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Post by: charaman on January 31, 2006, 11:03:29 PM
Not really. get over it or don't publish it.

Also, did you draw the image in the picture, or did you rip it from somewhere (not made by you) and add filters (not written by you)?

Just a question.
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Post by: Noobpwner on January 31, 2006, 11:04:56 PM
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wow, cant believe you're defending some1 who treats you like ****


So what everyone has rights to what they create in hopes no one else will steal it.  What if yuo made a sweet rpg and someone went and hacked your computer took it and used it as there own I dont think youd like that so I think you should rethink how your thinking.


No one hacked his computer to make a parody of him. How is this any worse than FFL's "Alex's Evil Twin Brother"? I think you should rethink how you're thinking.


  hmmmm  I dunno...
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 11:09:17 PM
Charaman: It was a stencle... you know, like a black and white picture where the dude is white and the background is black.

Basically, custom colored would be better words to use.
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Post by: charaman on January 31, 2006, 11:10:04 PM
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Charaman: It was a stencle... you know, like a black and white picture where the dude is white and the background is black.

Basically, custom colored would be better words to use.


ok. Just asking.
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Post by: WarxePB on January 31, 2006, 11:19:22 PM
All of you just need to grow up.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 11:27:01 PM
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Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
All of you just need to grow up.


It's the internet, we're all inmature on it at some point.

My central place of being youthful just happens to be forums.

Most people's are MMORPGS.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on January 31, 2006, 11:29:11 PM
 
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If I can help someone by telling them what is wrong with their map IN MY OPINION, I'll do it. If their map sucks, I'll tell them. If it's good, I tell them. I mean, you don't see me ripping on Robotam do you for mapping.


I guess I didn't translate my thoughts into words too good earlier on this particular subject. I'm not saying your rip on everyone or think you're better then everyone, because I know you don't. It just seems sometimes that when people new to rpg maker show their maps, you put them down because they aren't as good as you are. I don't know if this is the case or not, but thats how I sometimes saw it.

Whether trying to be nice about saying something or being brutenly honest about something is all up to each person. I can't say that one is right and one is wrong. But I do know for a fact that encouraging someone to do better does more than discouraging someone. You know, a lot of these people are trying their best, but just lack the experiance to pull off a good map or script. Thats not something that they should be put down for, they're really trying hard to make it work, so I encourage them to keep on practicing, they often do, and I often see an improvement.

Now noobs or anyone for that matter that go off and say something like 'my game pwns all urs!" or "my game is the best!", then yeah, they deserve to be flamed. And people who aren't willing to put enough of an effort into their games or are too lazy to improve them are also worthy of being flamed. Saying something like 'I'm going to keep the rtp because replacing the gfx is too much work' would be an indecator of this.

 
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I mean, have you ever heard back from any of the people that you've helped THAT HAVE LESS THEN 50 POSTS about how great their game is doing thanks to you? How properous it turned out? That they are still continuing it and need more coding aid? (I'm not talking about little things like a N/D system or something, but an ABS or CBS and etc)


As a general rule, I don't help with any great system (cbs, abs, cms, etc) for anyone who deson't have a good knowlage of rpg maker. But I have made an intro for someone a long time ago, and I still talk to them and hear about their game now. The same goes for any major script I make.

 
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It just means that you're a nicer person then I am and have more tollerence to stupidity/low expectations then I do.


Trust me, I don't have low expectations, there is hardly an rpg maker game that I'll play through for fun anymore simply because they're not up to my expectations. But instead of giving up on the person, I'll help them along so that their game does eventually reach my expectations.


Anyway, to each his own. I've stated my opinions, trying to push them further won't do anything. So I'll stop argueing. If you have any further statements on this, I may post my reasons on it, but yeah, I'll stop now  :)
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Post by: Meisnotcool on January 31, 2006, 11:32:46 PM
Okay. If you want, I'll change the profile. I don't want to turn this into a flame. It was just a joke, I wasn't flaming Meiscool.
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Post by: Revolution911 on January 31, 2006, 11:35:32 PM
....You realize how stupid this is?

Dude, Meiscool, stop complaining about it.

1) It's NOT a big deal AT ALL.

2) You had it coming.

3) Like charaman said, this is no different then Alex's Evil twin brother
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Post by: WarxePB on January 31, 2006, 11:36:25 PM
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Meiscool
It's the internet, we're all inmature on it at some point.

My central place of being youthful just happens to be forums.

Most people's are MMORPGS.


I myself know that the Internet is a great place to blow off steam, but it's no excuse for being rude and obnoxious on a forum.

As a member, you are expected to help the forum prosper as a whole. Bashing other people simply because you "feel like it" is generally seen as not helping the forum, whether that fourm is here, another, or even a conversation in real life. You can scream "It's my right" all you want, but remember that Free Speech is not an absolute right; if Alex, Darkfox, Sai or whoever else wanted to limit what you say because they felt it wasn't benefitting anyone else, they could.

Basically, all I'm trying to say is that you do not have the right attitude on this forum, and you should consider treating people with just a bit more respect before coming here again. If you continue to act as you would, rest assured that someone will complain, and you will be punished.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on January 31, 2006, 11:36:45 PM
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Trust me, I don't have low expectations, there is hardly an rpg maker game that I'll play through for fun anymore simply because they're not up to my expectations.


So..... would you play my Pact game when the demo gets out? :p

Meisnotcool: You took my profile exactly, meaning you were mimicing me. That's against the rules. I wouldn't be so pissed at you if you would've told people that you arn't Meiscool and are another guy acting as him because I am your idle, but you just let it go on and continued to allow the: "ZOMG Meiscool ure Lame"ness to continue. Don't hide behind a shield and wave your sword, fight like a man if that's your intenet.

Also, I wouldn't have been pissed if it was actually funny, but it was just sad....
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Post by: Meisnotcool on January 31, 2006, 11:41:04 PM
I told them I wasn't you, but not at my first post. I don't consider you lame, but you should stop flaming. This is what make you look lame. I didn't want flame. I didn't know someone would think I was you. And yes, you're almost my idole. :bend:
And just to know, would you say the same thing if I had chosen someone else to mimic?
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Post by: DragonBlaze on January 31, 2006, 11:58:56 PM
 
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So..... would you play my Pact game when the demo gets out?


Yup, I know you're good with rm2k3, and your game sounds good so far, so I'll play it :), hopefully it won't let me down :p
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on February 01, 2006, 12:01:54 AM
*Looks at Noobpwners identical avatar to Meis* *Looks at meisnotcools account with exact info and sig*

S'not him, and I say it's Noobpwner in disguise.
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Post by: Meiscool-2 on February 01, 2006, 12:42:28 AM
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And just to know, would you say the same thing if I had chosen someone else to mimic?


I wouldn't be for it, but I probally wouldn't care. I would be like Rev911 is right now, posting about how it's against the rules but I don't care.
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Post by: drenrin2120 on February 01, 2006, 01:17:50 AM
Well, who is it? Alex's Evil Twin (If I'm guessing right) didn't have any problems, no one minded that he did this. I think, if Meiscool doesn't like this and is offended by it, no matter what he's done in the past, and Meisnotcool is a double user anyway, than the account should be deleted.
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Post by: ZeroKirbyX on February 01, 2006, 01:22:11 AM
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Well, who is it? Alex's Evil Twin (If I'm guessing right) didn't have any problems, no one minded that he did this. I think, if Meiscool doesn't like this and is offended by it, no matter what he's done in the past, and Meisnotcool is a double user anyway, than the account should be deleted.


But AET is FFL right? SO no ill itent. Besides, I seriously think it's just Meis in disguise XD
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Post by: drenrin2120 on February 01, 2006, 01:31:40 AM
Hm... yeah, than an IP check? I know I already said this, but it would solve a lot of problems.
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Post by: GhostClown on February 01, 2006, 01:36:36 AM
We'll IP check the user. This thread is being locked for now, later if by any chance we do decide to tell the public, the name will be posted here.