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Title: Drawings and the like
Post by: Dominicy on September 18, 2008, 02:27:00 PM
Title changed again :3
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: fruckert on September 18, 2008, 03:52:56 PM
I like it
Except for the fact that he doesn't have a body
And the fact that the sword looks a bit weird. It looks like the hilt is farther forward in the Z axis then the blade, probably cause it's darker
Other then that it's good
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on September 18, 2008, 04:29:38 PM
YEH CALL THAT CRUSHING MY SPIRIT!?

He has no body, probably because you're a lazy bastard, his sword is mis-shapen, looks like the blade is broken, the scar on his eye looks like hair, his chest is out of proportion and his head is oversized.

Topic closed.
















In all seriousness, yes, I was rushing, and it made me screw up his sword, particularly.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Moosetroop11 on September 18, 2008, 08:56:23 PM
His chest plate thing looks kinda weird... It should get bigger as it gets nearer the viewer, not smaller.

That's the only criticism I have that you didn't mention :p It looks like you can draw okay. I have no idea how you screwed up the sword so badly XD
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on September 18, 2008, 09:00:36 PM
That's the only criticism I have that you didn't mention :p It looks like you can draw okay. I have no idea how you screwed up the sword so badly XD

Two words.  Mouse pad.  My mouse hates me and all those bull-crap excuses.  XD 
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Archem on September 18, 2008, 09:02:42 PM
Your pretending is better than my pretending! Good job!
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on September 18, 2008, 10:24:04 PM
Yaaay pretending.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 18, 2008, 11:22:37 PM
Get out of anime and do it fast.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on September 19, 2008, 12:37:22 AM
That can be taken many ways.  I'll leave room for you to explain before I say anything XD
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Phayre on September 19, 2008, 12:43:09 AM
The perspective on the head is weird, and he's missing an eye. Poor eyeless guy.
As for "my mouse hates me" . . . that's why there are tablets. Computer drawing is not a requirement, so if you want to do it, either get really good with a mouse or invest in a Wacom. I love my tablet (though I use it mostly for web graphics, spriting, and writing rather than drawing).
As for "get out of anime", I disagree. I think if people can develop their own interpretation of the anime and manga aesthetic, than it's fine, a great thing to play with. However, if you draw your figures and faces just like your favorite artists do, or just like your favorite animes style (i.e. OMG U GAIZ LOOK AT MAI DOOD I DREW HIZ EYEZ JUST LIEK NARUTOS LOL!), then that is lame. This from the girl who still has to remind herself that only CLAMP can bestow their men with absurdly thick eye makeup-looking-lines and still be awesome.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on September 19, 2008, 01:14:40 AM
More or less I just go for my own style, didn't mimic any particular anime (The reason not limited to the fact that they all suck).  The eye is missing because I couldn't quite get it right at the angle it's at, and I couldn't quite get giving his face shading right with just black.  Oh, right, and I'm dirt poor.  Not quite my family, but *I* am, so should I ever get a tablet, it'll be by being a mooch XD
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 19, 2008, 03:08:35 AM
I say get out of anime because away from the internet, you'll get no real respect for it unless you do it INCREDIBLY well.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Meiscool-2 on September 19, 2008, 04:25:10 AM
Drawing shouldn't be about respect from others; it should be about self enjoyment.

Dom, I think it looks very good, despite it being a well known drawing style. You made a good hand, which (at least for me) is one of the hardest things to do on a person. The sword looks pretty effed up - try straightening it or something so it doesn't look so bent. The handle/hilt could also serve to be a little smaller/thinner.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 19, 2008, 04:35:06 AM
Art is solely for self enjoyment until you decide to share it, at which point just your opinion ceases to matter. I think I've gone through this shtick before.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Red Fox on September 19, 2008, 08:32:43 AM
Looks good, the only thing I don't like is the nose. I wanna post what I made, but I don't think I'm allowed to :(
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on September 19, 2008, 11:48:52 AM
I dunno, you were allowed to show off that burger demon thing for the spriting contest.  XD

But yes, he has a very prominent nose.  And he's greedy.  I think he may be the living incarnant of the Jewish stereotype.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: ZeroKirbyX on September 19, 2008, 02:24:03 PM
....JEWS!?
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Revolution911 on September 19, 2008, 11:39:19 PM
....JEWS!?


I lol'd.



Also yes, gtfo with that self enjoyment ****.  If its truly about self enjoyment then dont post it on the internet.  Or show anyone.  Just because you want respect as an artist doesn't mean that you have to bend and conform to what other people say, but it doesn't mean doing some weak generic anime style is any better.

Try not to get stuck into **** like that.  Really.  And by that I mean flat mouth, no nostrils, triangle nose, huge eyes, etc. It does no one any good.  The arm is pretty off.  That elbow is just ridiculous.  Unless its a shirt sleeve.  If thats the case, fix the folds.  Get some straighter lines dude.  Straighter and more solid.  Its just a mess the way it stands now. 

It looks like you're just starting out though, so I guess I cant expect so much.  W/e.  You'll get better if you keep at it. 


WHAT IS WITH KIDS NOW A DAYS.  WHY DOES NO ONE USE A PENCIL ANYMORE.


AND IF I HAVE TO SEE ANOTHER "XD" TACKED ON TO ANOTHER SENTENCE IM GUNNA FUFKCHJSDRFHKSFJK
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on September 20, 2008, 12:23:01 AM
Yeh, I feel I should apologize about the eyes.  I tend to go for more realistic facial proportioning, this is more or less the first time I've really tried drawing with a mouse.  Still getting used to it, bla bla.  Besides, I still use a pencil, I just don't have my webcam any longer and I feel like showing something off for once.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: fruckert on September 20, 2008, 04:07:13 AM
XD

In all seriousness, I do like the way it looks, and the only thing that bugged me was the sword
I'm very loose with my criticism.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: X_marks_the_ed on September 20, 2008, 11:39:38 AM
weak generic anime style

Yes.

Indeed, drawing to please is stupid. Oh crap, I did that. Oh well. I'm a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on October 19, 2008, 02:10:42 AM
Update.

(http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs31/f/2008/234/f/d/Keygia_by_Dominicy.jpg)

Same guy as first post.  Less suck, though.

(http://fc56.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/229/0/9/Crystalized_Wyvern_by_Dominicy.jpg)

Wyvern trapped in a block of ice.  Was going to be a boss in Spire.

(http://fc88.deviantart.com/fs31/f/2008/229/8/4/Demon_by_Dominicy.jpg)

Demon thing.  Inspired by Pinhead, more or less.

(http://fc30.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/229/4/1/Kut_Ku_by_Dominicy.jpg)

Yian Kut-Ku.

I have more crap I'd like to show off, but the fact that I don't have a scanner and my webcam is broken kind of prevents me from doing that.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: fruckert on October 20, 2008, 10:41:51 PM
You have any friends with cameras?

If so retake those, cause I can't see jack-**** for detail
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on October 20, 2008, 11:01:20 PM
You have any friends with cameras[s/]?

I draw.  Plus I'm on Charas.  Answers itself.

In all seriousness, no, I do not have any friends with cameras. XD
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: fruckert on October 20, 2008, 11:57:59 PM
Answers itself.

That is very very very true
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on October 31, 2008, 08:55:15 PM
(http://fc61.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/305/c/e/Wrinkles_the_Paedo_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)
Wrinkles the Paedo.

Being silly in a paint chat.  I went overboard with dithering.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: fruckert on October 31, 2008, 11:18:30 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on November 02, 2008, 02:36:56 AM
(http://fc59.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/306/0/a/Aerie_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

Aerie the Avariel.

Being serious in a paint chat XD

Aerie from Baldur's Gate.  Yeah, Red - the one who gave me AIDS by hitting on me. Right, and the one who said the whole "I will show you my body... May it please you" thing.  'Scuse me while I go vomit all night at the thought of fan-art, no matter how awesome the character.

(http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs34/f/2008/307/b/f/Efreet_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

Efreet.  Roasting my friend's drawing.

(http://fc59.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/307/2/5/Dying_Knight_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

Bleeding guy.  The left side as a whole is pretty messed up.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Red Fox on November 02, 2008, 03:16:51 PM
(http://fc61.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/305/c/e/Wrinkles_the_Paedo_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)
Wrinkles the Paedo.

Being silly in a paint chat.  I went overboard with dithering.

That reminds me, we need to paint chat someday soon.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on November 04, 2008, 06:12:33 AM
More doodling.  My friend's been dragging me into Paint-chat sessions alot.

(http://fc85.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/308/b/1/Keygia_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

May or may not use as a face set just to give the game a unique look.  Main character and my signature character.

(http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/308/3/b/Charlotte_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

Second character you get in the party.  NOT A MAGE 8D  Yeh, she's a thief ;3

(http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs35/f/2008/308/3/e/Zombie_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

Character who appears in all of two or three scenes near the beginning.

(http://fc70.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/308/b/e/Vincent_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

Medieval incarnation of Wrinkles the Paedophile.  May or may not be a paedophiliac in game.  I see to be good at wrinkles.

(http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/308/1/5/Kittiena_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

Gift drawing for a friend of mine. *Bad at doing hybrid...cat-wolf-unicorn-things*  I personally hate it, but she seemed to like it so I'm content.  Will possibly make a cameo appearance.




(http://fc62.deviantart.com/fs34/f/2008/309/0/a/Coastal_Blizzard_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

Not a drawing, but whatever.
Title: Re: Dominic pretends he can draw
Post by: Dominicy on November 06, 2008, 03:28:07 AM
(http://fc55.deviantart.com/fs33/f/2008/309/f/6/The_Slayer_by_Smeer_noph.jpg)

The Slayer from Baldur's Gate.  Maooor fan-art.  The legs are out of proportion, I know.  Given, that wouldn't be such a problem if I added in the arms that it uses as a second set of legs, but eh.  I'm not satisfied with my work with this guy, but I got lazy.
Title: Re: Dominic learns to draw
Post by: Revolution911 on November 06, 2008, 04:59:58 AM
Get some real lines.
Not the thousands of mini ones.
I mean actual, confident lines.

Do a rough sketch first if you want, then go over it in a darker shade or a different color, but get some ACTUAL LINES.

Also human heads do not work that way.

You dont need to over detail the hair like that. Just draw the outline for it. I guess its personal choice but it looks sloppy and rushed that way.
Your eyes are like... discs. Like rice cakes. Make them SMALLER and space them 1 EYE APART. Also their noses are just check marks. Fix that.

STYLE IS NOT AN EXCUSE.
PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.
Title: Re: Dominic learns to draw
Post by: Dominicy on November 06, 2008, 05:22:53 AM
I use multiple layers and the paint-chat I usually go in has only two layers, so the darker lines is more or less out of the question.  Spacing character's eyes one eye apart I never actually tried, and since I tend to try and give pictures a more '3-dimensional' appearance (meaning one side becomes more 'flat' as the character turns further away from the perspective) but it's something I'll have to try.

As far as style not being an excuse, I agree with you to some degree.  Style isn't an excuse because style adapts, if you will, with time, and improves, if that makes any sort of sense.  I have been making some attempts at using a more realistic style but the 'manga style' if you'd like to call it that has been what I've been using since I was around ten, so it's nothing that I exactly expect I'll be making an immediate change in.
Title: Re: Dominic learns to draw
Post by: Dominicy on November 20, 2008, 06:36:59 PM
(http://fc70.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/325/8/d/Girl_take_2_by_Smeer_noph.png)

Practicing with a bit of a more realistic style.
Title: Re: Dominic learns to draw
Post by: Dominicy on November 26, 2008, 11:32:27 PM
More mugshots that I'm actually using for something.

(http://fc71.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/329/b/4/Ellimere_by_Smeer_noph.png)

Ellimere.

(http://fc46.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/330/e/3/Necromancer_by_Smeer_noph.png)

Oddly enough, his name is a spoiler. xP

(http://fc17.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/328/f/c/Bastard_Son_of_100_Maniacs_by_Smeer_noph.png)

Freddy Krueger.  Well, why the hell not?  Was too lazy to do a body or colors, which is a shame, looking back on this.  Maybe I'll redo him some day.

(http://a.deviantart.com/avatars/s/m/smeer-noph.gif)

Idle pose I did of the the first mugshot above.  Used Prpl's Regal sprite that he did quite some time ago, so it's not exactly mine, but hey.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Red Fox on November 29, 2008, 11:47:42 PM
Amazing!
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Dominicy on November 29, 2008, 11:57:21 PM
(http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/332/f/f/Vampire_by_Smeer_noph.png)
Nameless vampire-thing.  Mostly just to spite Twilightards.

(http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/327/3/d/Tetagia_by_Smeer_noph.png)
Forgot to put her here, apparently.

(http://fc51.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/334/7/5/Tetagia_Reference_by_Smeer_noph.png)
Reference of the elf above.  I screwed up pretty badly on the arm.

(http://fc19.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/332/2/b/Flooded_Valley_by_Smeer_noph.png)

Flooded, treeless valley I did in Bryce.

(http://fc11.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/333/6/6/Coast_by_Smeer_noph.png)

More stuff in Bryce.

(http://fc50.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/333/9/8/Mountain_by_Smeer_noph.png)

You guessed it.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Archem on November 30, 2008, 01:55:02 AM
Heh. I remember using Bryce. Easiest thing in the world to work with.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Dominicy on November 30, 2008, 03:33:06 AM
It is.  It still looks damn impressive in the end, but hey.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Dominicy on December 04, 2008, 06:11:18 PM
Never heard of it.  But thank you any way, I suppose. O_O
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Dominicy on December 12, 2008, 07:36:17 PM
I don't feel like digging up my old sprite gallery thread that probably never existed.

(http://fc55.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/345/4/e/Male_Paper_doll_by_Smeer_noph.png)(http://fc41.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/345/e/4/Female_Paper_doll_by_Smeer_noph.png)
(http://fc45.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/347/1/f/Male_Paper_doll__Ebony_Plate_by_Smeer_noph.png)
They don't exactly look like mannequins, but I did my best.  Female version of the black armor on the way, eventually.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Uberpwn_w00t on December 12, 2008, 10:53:12 PM
Top left guy has a vagina.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 12, 2008, 10:54:21 PM
I must agree with Lucas to some degree.
The female's shoulders are really broad for being female.
Also, the feet of the first male looks a bit twisted.

I love the design of the armours otherwise.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: fruckert on December 12, 2008, 10:55:35 PM
I agree with purp
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Dominicy on December 13, 2008, 02:10:17 AM
This is the most confusing critique ever.  ANY ONE ELSE WANT TO AGREE WITH SOMEONE!? XD

I was pretty lazy with the female version, but for the sake of realism; 'she' is supposed to be at least somewhat muscular.  The shoulders I'll get around to fixing some time, maybe, otherwise don't expect too much change.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Red Fox on December 13, 2008, 02:11:48 AM
I would make love to it.

I would also make love to Lucas.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Dominicy on December 13, 2008, 02:13:14 AM
I think you'd make love to a wall if there was a big enough hole drilled in.  Actually... >.>
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Red Fox on December 13, 2008, 02:22:25 AM
Yes. I would. Probably. Remind me to drill a hole in my wall tomorrow.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 13, 2008, 08:34:05 AM
I was pretty lazy with the female version, but for the sake of realism; 'she' is supposed to be at least somewhat muscular. 

But if she's supposed to be muscular, the guy can't be muscular at all since they seem to have just as muscular arms and legs.

So you might want to make the male a bit more buff or make the female a bit less.
The armours are sex though.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Hell Angel on December 13, 2008, 09:04:24 AM
I agree with Archem Prpl 1000% completely.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 13, 2008, 07:48:18 PM
Search google for naked female bodybuilders and you will see that even if they are muscular as hell, they still dont have the same anatomy as muscular dudes. Unless they take drugs in order to get muscular, then they look just like guys. But natural ones dont.

There is no such thing as natural body-builders Lucy.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Prpl_Mage on December 14, 2008, 12:14:47 AM
Of course there are. You can even tell the difference. By natural I mean non drug using. And there are bodybuilders who dont do drugs.

There aren't any successful bodybuilders who doesn't use drugs.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Archem on December 14, 2008, 04:19:46 AM
I am one of those. I've never touched drugs, and I've built my body to be quite large.

Round, too.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Archem on December 15, 2008, 01:28:03 AM
Thank goodness I can get a rise out of you without stripping!
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Dominicy on January 09, 2009, 07:41:58 PM
(http://fc42.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/009/5/a/Wyvern_by_Steam_Boat_Wilson.png)

I'll just leave this right here.  And mention that I realize I screwed up on the wings beyond all repair.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Red Fox on January 09, 2009, 10:06:52 PM
Looks fine.

Like an apple at sunrise. Or sand that has recently become wet in a rainfall.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Red Giant on January 10, 2009, 01:26:26 AM
That dragon is splendid. I really like the form and anatomy. Do  more dragons.

I'm not a fan of the underwing texture though. Perhaps it would have been better left blank?
It might just be me, but I think the density of detail in the underwings when compared with the rest of the picture gives them a sort of visual weight. It gives the impression that they are the heaviest part of the dragon, which just doesn't fly with me. Oh ho ho.
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: fruckert on January 11, 2009, 11:36:57 PM
The undersides of dragons wings aren't scaly, dude
They're more of a velvet
If that makes any sort of sense at all
Instead of doing the scales, try to leave it blank, and put in the outlines of the bones
Title: Re: Drawings and the like
Post by: Dominicy on February 20, 2009, 07:26:43 PM
The first is a gift for my best friend on Valentine's Day.  I'm not happy with it, but she was, so it's all good.

A head template, three morphs each for the four different segments.

A viking... thing... I did some time ago when I was bored.

And lastly, a 16 color face-set.  Something of a sample of the graphics style for Divine Apple's next game.