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Off-Topic => All of all! => Topic started by: DragonBlaze on January 10, 2012, 09:11:06 AM

Title: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: DragonBlaze on January 10, 2012, 09:11:06 AM
So my room mate just got back from Las Vagas. Apparently he has done a lot of drugs there, and thinks that heroine addiction is made up by the government and isn't a real thing to worry to think about. I have tried to tell him everything I could think of to try to convince him that it is not a good thing to do... Sadly he won't listen to any logical or factual argument that I try to make. I'm at a point where I do not know what to do... Does anyone have any suggestions of what to do? I will have no guilt if I just leave him to do what he wants, but at the same time, he's my friend, and I don't want him to kill himself by doing these dangerous drugs...
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: HobomasterXXX on January 10, 2012, 09:20:28 AM
Heroin is basically the worst of the worst when it comes to narcotics and their long term effects, but there's not a lot I can think to do short of the obvious which you've probably tried. Try getting in contact with a rehab centre or a psychiatrist and see what they have to say?
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: Moosetroop11 on January 10, 2012, 11:02:29 AM
Yeah, might be best not to just leave it alone or he could become difficult to live with.  Not sure what to try though; most attempts would probably just start an argument and make him even harder to reach. You'll have to be careful about it... Or if you're really desperate, maybe inform one of his parents if they're the sort that he'd listen to. That's a slightly douchey thing to do though, so I'm not sure...
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: Prpl_Mage on January 10, 2012, 12:55:22 PM
If he thinks that the addiction is a conspiracy ask him to stop -  and if he continues he proves that he is addicted and can't deny it anymore. Even if he says that he's not doing it because he's addicted but rather because he likes it - it's synonymous, means the same thing.

Also, at least get him into pot instead or something that won't destroy his body.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: TyDrace on January 10, 2012, 01:52:25 PM
As long as he's paying, it's his problem. You can tell him you don't like it, you can tell him he's an idiot for thinking it's a conspiracy, but it's not your problem.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: zuhane on January 10, 2012, 02:04:12 PM
Yeah, heroin is literally the worst known narcotic on earth. It's just leagues and leagues more dangerous than any
other drug. It completely and utterly decimates your nervous pathways. How does he not know this? At least you're
smart enough to know to keep well away. You only have to try it once, then that's it.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: Archem on January 10, 2012, 04:29:08 PM
Try what these guys are saying, but then deliver an ultimatum. Find something big to threaten him with, and follow through if he doesn't give in.

Of course, if you're not the type to burn bridges with deadbeat druggies, you could always try the harsh route of getting police intervention. It's a punk-*** move, but I think your friend's life is more important than street cred.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: TyDrace on January 10, 2012, 05:36:03 PM
Try what these guys are saying, but then deliver an ultimatum. Find something big to threaten him with, and follow through if he doesn't give in.

Of course, if you're not the type to burn bridges with deadbeat druggies, you could always try the harsh route of getting police intervention. It's a punk-*** move, but I think your friend's life is more important than street cred.

No, just ****ing no. It's his friend's problem, not his. Obviously, if his concerns aren't being heard, his friend won't care and bringing in the police will get his friend in jail.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: fruckert on January 10, 2012, 06:29:12 PM
I think jail and rehab is preferable to death/losing everyone you care about.

Blaze, is the guy your roommate, or just a friend?

ed: Derp!
Considering he's your roommate, **** Drace, yes it's your problem. You're living with the dude.
Calling the cops should be a last resort, though. But yeah, you should get a hold of a rehab clinic/doctor to figure out what your next move should be. I honestly wouldn't trust non-expert opinions on the matter. More harm than good is likely to come of it.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: Archem on January 10, 2012, 06:58:25 PM
No, just ****ing no. It's his friend's problem, not his. Obviously, if his concerns aren't being heard, his friend won't care and bringing in the police will get his friend in jail.
I can see how you prioritize your friends. Glad that I'm not one of them.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: drenrin2120 on January 11, 2012, 01:35:52 AM
Since you live in America, the government WOULD sooner lock him up before helping him... Other than getting him a plane ticket to portugal, seek expert help and advice. I have no idea how you'd get a friend into rehab without lots of things going really wrong. You really can't do this without any help. Contact family of his but only if you trust them, or any friends of his you know for sure you can trust and seek advice and help. There has to be someone or something out there who can help you.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: Yuffit on January 11, 2012, 01:37:39 AM
Also, at least get him into pot instead or something that won't destroy his body.
Prpl_Mage, you just won 36.4 internets!
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: Archem on January 11, 2012, 04:18:42 AM
No. *stands up, walks out*
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: TyDrace on January 11, 2012, 09:45:12 AM
I can see how you prioritize your friends. Glad that I'm not one of them.

I prioritise my friends just fine. Look, the guy gave his concerns, told him he's acting like an idiot, what more is he supposed to do? If he does more, he'll only end up destroying the bond they have. I don't say leave the guy be like it is, mention he's acting like an idiot, sure, but don't tell him what to do.

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Considering he's your roommate, **** Drace, yes it's your problem. You're living with the dude.

As long as he is not stealing your stuff or hanging out with his crackbuddies, it's not his problem.

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I think jail and rehab is preferable to death/losing everyone you care about.

Heroine addicts don't die that fast you goddamn idiot. And jail time would only increase his use because he'll be locked up like a criminal, in contact with criminals all day long. You want him to come out and have 20 contacts to get heroine instead of 1?

Goddamn, take it from the guy who actually had to live with a heroine addict for 7 years. They don't listen, they don't care, and being all "tough love" on them only makes it worse.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: zuhane on January 11, 2012, 02:16:39 PM
I can see how you prioritize your friends. Glad that I'm not one of them.

Me too!
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: HobomasterXXX on January 11, 2012, 04:25:43 PM
Pot addiction is made up by the government, but heroin addiction is a real thing.
Just because you can't become chemically addicted to something doesn't mean it isn't habit forming to the point of developing into something indiscernable from an addiction.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: Archem on January 11, 2012, 06:24:18 PM
Technically, through Pavlovian training, you can suffer withdrawal symptoms from something that doesn't naturally contain addictive substances.
Title: Re: I have a bit of a problem
Post by: MissingName on January 11, 2012, 11:36:25 PM
I would suggest he go see a therapist or something, at the very least.