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Off-Topic => Archive => Resources => Topic started by: just1question on October 25, 2004, 12:06:44 AM

Title: Is there a...problem with RTP?
Post by: just1question on October 25, 2004, 12:06:44 AM: I was wondering:
I started making my game about two months ago, and I started kind of haphazardly and excitedly, using all RTP stuff. And since then I've discovered several resource sites, so I started to use better stuff. However, in reference to characters, faces, and battle charsets, is there really any problem with maybe using a few RTP characters? Because I've noticed in some reviews, especially on phylomortis.com, that if you use RTP, you're the biggest newb ever. Is there really any problem with it, other than the fact that it's not really original material?
Also because I've already planned to make 4 of my main playable characters RTP, but I can change that. I just don't want to be asking everyone to help me make facesets and battle charsets :(
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Post by: WarxePB on October 25, 2004, 12:12:33 AM: Everything is okay when used in moderation. If you use a bit of RTP, no one's really going to care. And if they do, that's too bad for them.
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Post by: VulcanRaven336 on October 25, 2004, 12:17:08 AM: RTP's dont make your game look that bad. For example, great made games use RTP's such as a blurred line. Now thats a good game, with some rtps.
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Post by: Red Giant on October 25, 2004, 12:42:51 AM: Quote
Originally posted by VulcanRaven336
RTP's dont make your game look that bad. For example, great made games use RTP's such as a blurred line. Now thats a good game, with some rtps.

Hell, a blurred line is the ugliest game Ive ever played, and yet it was the most enjoyable Ive ever played.
It's all just in appearance really. A couple of RTP characters arent gonna make you the biggest newbie ever.
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Post by: Serano65 on October 25, 2004, 02:26:14 AM: Quote
Hell, a blurred line is the ugliest game Ive ever played, and yet it was the most enjoyable Ive ever played.
It's all just in appearance really. A couple of RTP characters arent gonna make you the biggest newbie ever.

You could have the some of the greatest resources in the world but if your games not good then it's just not good. say you have 3d game play killer music and cool pics for pong it's still just pong.
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Post by: DragonBlaze on October 25, 2004, 02:48:04 AM: Yeah I'm usually against RTP. The reason is because I've seen them used in tons of games for the past 4 years. And most of the games that use the rtp resources are made by people who have never made a game before. And well, no offence, but usually peoples first games aren't the best. I also believe that using RTP graphics for main characters, or for most of the maps takes away part of the games originallity.

My suggestion is that you don't use any rtp gfx for any of the key characters, or for most of the maps. Using rtp gfx for normal npcs, monsters, backdrops, and for some maps isn't that bad though.

Serously though, there are thousands upon thousands of resources scattered all over the internet, finding some other ones besides the rtp ones isn't that hard...
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Post by: MrMister on October 25, 2004, 03:50:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Serano65

You could have the some of the greatest resources in the world but if your games not good then it's just not good. say you have 3d game play killer music and cool pics for pong it's still just pong.
That would be the freaking greatest game ever!
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Post by: Draven on October 25, 2004, 06:25:04 AM: I have nothing against RTP, it's just a cosmetic issue. The plot and the gameplay is all that matters.

Always, I mean ALWAYS, when you show your game to a big community with RTP, they start to shout you "Use Mack & Blue RTP is so lame". Bullshit. Mack & Blue is even more overused than RTP.
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Post by: just1question on October 25, 2004, 02:45:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by DragonBlaze
Yeah I'm usually against RTP. The reason is because I've seen them used in tons of games for the past 4 years. And most of the games that use the rtp resources are made by people who have never made a game before. And well, no offence, but usually peoples first games aren't the best. I also believe that using RTP graphics for main characters, or for most of the maps takes away part of the games originallity.

My suggestion is that you don't use any rtp gfx for any of the key characters, or for most of the maps. Using rtp gfx for normal npcs, monsters, backdrops, and for some maps isn't that bad though.

Serously though, there are thousands upon thousands of resources scattered all over the internet, finding some other ones besides the rtp ones isn't that hard...

But the hardest thing is finding sets that MATCH each other...
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Post by: Xen on October 25, 2004, 03:22:25 PM: RTP isn't that bad. I plan to use 1 bgm, some battle anims and the sounds.
You would have a truly shoddy looking game if EVERYTHING was RTP based in my opinion...
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Post by: Robotam on October 28, 2004, 07:26:01 PM: I have nothing against RTP, but there are better graphics out there.
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Post by: gyrus on October 30, 2004, 05:53:03 PM: People who hate rtp are dumb because getting un-rtp sounds for everything is SO hard! so they're probobly being a hypocrite
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Post by: just1question on October 30, 2004, 07:58:53 PM: Although I'm planning on getting a few more sound effects for my game than RTP, that's only simply because I need them. The sound effects might, in the end, be the ONLY thing I'm using all RTP of. Of course, if you're talking about music, you NEED more music than just RTP, because there's SO much better stuff out there. Actually, I think the only 2 RTP musics I'm using right now are a pub music and an item shop music, and I might end up changing those.
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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on October 30, 2004, 08:36:08 PM: I find that the only overused-so-much-that-it-makes-your-game-look-like-a-game-made-by-a-newbie are the charsets and the Battlecharsets. The rest is okay IMO. Except that defualt Title Music *Shudders*

BTW: About that Wicked Pong Game that's 3D Etc.... THERE IS ONE
IT's so fun. With power ups and everything
Title: Pingh pong game thingy
Post by: Chari on December 20, 2004, 07:35:05 PM: Is that game by any chance Magic Ball
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Post by: Ruler of the Dark on December 20, 2004, 08:14:27 PM: 1. Do not topic kick, please read the rules, and if it was that important to you, you could have pmed me.

2. No, it's called Pong 3D
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Post by: FFL2and3rocks on December 21, 2004, 05:48:49 AM: What RotD said.

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