Religious morality. What's up with that?

[Archem]

On the evolution topic, it has been proven that people are becoming more and more insane. Insane as in... the common morals that people follow to maintain a civil lifestyle are being less and less understood as time progresses.

I blame atheism. Without faith in a God, people lack a reason to follow rules of morality. This insight has nothing to do with my religious standings (I do believe I've stepped into the realm of agnosticism), it's just going by what my logic concludes.

[drenrin2120]

I blame atheism. Without faith in a God, people lack a reason to follow rules of morality. This insight has nothing to do with my religious standings (I do believe I've stepped into the realm of agnosticism), it's just going by what my logic concludes.

I find this hard to believe. If a person only does what is right because they fear the wrath their god may inflict upon them, then how good are they really? You should be good to other people because you know it is the right thing to do and want to do it.

But then I woke up.

[Archem]

If a person only does what is right because they fear the wrath their god may inflict upon them, then how good are they really?

I believe this adds backing to my point. The reason that people are becoming less moral is because they don't have the fear of God in them. But let's not drag this much further off topic than this thread already is. If you want to continue this debate in another thread, be my guest. It could be fun.

[Razor]

That's a terrible lie. It's bad parenting is what it is.

[ZeroKirbyX]

But if it's bad parenting, what causes them to be bad parents? What have they been exposed to that causes that?

[Prpl_Mage]

I believe this adds backing to my point. The reason that people are becoming less moral is because they don't have the fear of God in them. But let's not drag this much further off topic than this thread already is. If you want to continue this debate in another thread, be my guest. It could be fun.

I think it's rather "The reason that people are becoming less moral is because they don't fear to be executed by their king."
Lack of real punishment and increasing population results with people acting against society. Especially those parents who spoil their kids and are afraid to tell them that they are doing wrong in order to be loved in return.

[Meiscool-2]

You could research it and just find out that it is a chemical inbalance....

[Archem]

Everything is a chemical imbalance. Neutrality is when it's all balanced.

[Cosmos]

o.0 That's lame. So when a Christian woman kills someone in the name of the lord, then what's her reason Archem?

It's not always bad parenting. Some are amazing parents with bad seeds. It's hard to know your kid is killing the neighborhood animals. Remember the first Michael movie?

As for morals, my Socialogy class spoke of this. There was a study on some tribe. Usually everyone agrees, like a mob. But what makes those few people within the tribe disagree? Morals. So it's believed that we are born with morals, some listen, others ignore it.

Currently, most parents are busy paying bills and don't have time.

[Moosetroop11]

o.0 That's lame. So when a Christian woman kills someone in the name of the lord, then what's her reason Archem?

Err... She thought god wanted her to do it? I can't see what you were trying to prove there...

[Meiscool-2]

Err... She thought god wanted her to do it? I can't see what you were trying to prove there...

I've seen people get out of jailtime because of this.

[Moosetroop11]

XD Seriously? Oh man. That's so wrong.

If you were using that as a counterpoint to my post, by the way, then you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm pretty sure you weren't, though...

[Meiscool-2]

No counterpoint intended.

[Cosmos]

Err... She thought god wanted her to do it? I can't see what you were trying to prove there...

Archem said atheists lacl morals and basically are going to kill because they don't believe in a god.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Here's the irony Mid, a 100% dedicated true atheist would. The morals that govern modern society are based on the set of morals laid forth by the Bible. Laws are all based upon what is right and what is wrong a decided by religion. An atheist that is absolutely opposed to religion would then blow off all laws and morality as being based off of religion. It's not a fear of God, its the fear of the others around them. If you were, say, in the middle east and could beat a woman, you might because it is condoned, where as in the US you wouldn't for fear of social stigmatization.

Long story short, atheism is a religion and until they become anarchist nihilists are really just the same as everyone else.