Religious morality. What's up with that?

[Archem]

Archem said atheists lacl morals and basically are going to kill because they don't believe in a god.

That's not what I said, but I can see how you got that. I'm saying that the concept lacks the fear of a supernatural power should you not follow the "rules". I'm not saying that all atheists lack morality, just that there's nothing to fear, so morality becomes more of a personal choice rather than a forced belief. As for killing in the name of the Lord, that's either brainwashing, tyranny at work, or the chemical imbalance I previously mentioned.

[Cosmos]

OMG I thought you wrote "trannies at work." XD My bads.

[Dominicy]

OMG I thought you wrote "trannies at work." XD My bads.

Derned transvestites corrupting our religious leaders with their jobs. XD

Oh, right, and I agree with Archem at least 100%.  That might just have to do with me being a christ-fag, though.

[Prpl_Mage]

Fanatics and sects can easilly get people to do things by telling them that it's righteous and then over and over explain why it would be justified.
Being in a sects is pretty much the same as a religion, the only differene is that one of them was founded to get money. Another grand difference between religion and sect is that a sect would fall apart if they would've been able to get everyone to be a part of it. In most sects the main mission is to reqruit people after all.

Back on this new topic.
Yes, people today chose if they want to feel sympathy and empathy towards other people, and unfortunatly there aren't many who does. Just playing WoW can prove that.
You see a group of monsters gathered around a chest, you want that chest and engage in bloody combat. When there are like 1 monster left with 1/2 hp there is someone running into the camp and opens the chest in front of your eyes. No respect for the other players there.

But the things is, if a person - not being a part of a religion decides not to care about his morality, that's probably because his parents didn't bash it into his head hard enough. Most parents are to busy with work or are just too soft, or the other way around.
So we blame parents and society. Especially movies and such that kids find so cool when some guy just kick some other guy because he wants to and walks away laughing.

And many things have been done in the name of the lord, I doubt it was because of brainwashing and that, the ones who did it just convinced themself that it had to be done or the world would end up in ruin.

Why havn't this turned out as another topic-split btw? We are no longer disscusing AIDS.

[Dragonium]

Topic has not been split, so much as rent asunder.

In my opinion most religion is a negative thing. It's a way for people to cloud the judgment of others. There is no higher power - this is earth, we have life, and that's all.

People who pray get on my frigging nerves. Christians in particular are always spouting the "God has plans for your life, that's why bad things happen" mantra, so the faith that said plans are so unimportant that God will change them if you pray and ask him to seems pretty hypocritical.

In fact Christianity as a whole is retarded. It's always thought of as the "nice" religion. The sane one that doesn't practice bombing people in the name of God or anything sinister like that. Yet people can brainwash others, be fanatical believers to the point of blind stupidity, and persecute those who lack their zealous faith. Christianity is one of the most dangerous religions going.

Society is going down the tubes because people are open-minded enough to see that we don't need religion. This is where civilisation collapsing becomes a good thing.

Only positive religion: Buddhism.

[Grandy]

 Buddhism is basically "You can do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't cause harm to others."

 THAT is how a religion should be.

[X_marks_the_ed]

Awesome to know I wasn't the only one thinking Buddhism will be the only working religion in a decade or two.
(So to speak.)

But, in my opinion, if anything is ruining our faith in morality, it's money and success.

[Prpl_Mage]

Just like Christianity Buddihsm have many different branches.
We got cathoholics, protestants, jehovas, mormons, Word of life you name it.
Saying that all of them are alike is wrong. Same goes for Buddhism, there are different ways of practising pretty mich the same thing. I don't know all the specific details but I know that some parts insist that Buddha is indeed the son of God while others say that he isn't.

And unilke Cathoholics protestantism is more open, "lift a rock and you'll find him, break a twig and he is there". I think that's one of the best ways to describe it.
Protestants don't confess their sins or beg for redemption, neither do they go to church every sunday. it's more like christianity, but with more freedom to speak your mind and have your own oppinions. You won't be met by "heracy!!!! burn the devilspawn!!" if question something.(Maybe some members does, but that's not the actual religion).

[ZeroKirbyX]

TOPIC SPLITS ARE AMAZING.

[Alpha-Methyl]

I honestly think religion is the cause of more bloodshed than anything else.  Oh, except for rap music.   On the surface religion supports good morals and values, but when people live too "by the book" concerning religion fights start over who's religion is right and things go downhill.   Taking religion, any religion too literally is dangerous simply becuase there are so many things in the bible, that muslim book, etc, that can be taken more than one way and in several cases an OPPOSITE context. 

Screw it, I say.  I don't like talking about religion becuase all the overly religious people I know act like cultists.  I don't base the way I act upon a fear of god, I just have an idea of how I'd feel if someone did to me what I do to them.  The golden rule, rules.

The main reason people act the way they do these days is because their parents didnt kick their asses enough early on.  Oh.. and because people who can't even speak right (nelly), and people who THINK they're badass because they got shot (50 cent), dominate the popular music scene.   That's the REAL problem.   If you can't talk, you shouldn't sing, and you aren't cool because you got shot, you're just an idiot. 

How's that for a topic split. 

[Meiscool-2]

50 cent is like Jesus. He's constantly getting shot but he keeps coming back.

[Alpha-Methyl]

I wouldn't mind seeing 50 cent nailed to a cross 

[Archem]

Buddhism is basically "You can do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't cause harm to others."

 THAT is how a religion should be.

You know, Satanism is the same way. If you look into it, you see that most of what you know about it is bullshit made up to make it look bad in comparison to other religions.

Weird ****, no?

[ZeroKirbyX]

Satanism is pretty much "You mess with my ****, you pay for my ****." Buddhism is tolerance, understanding, so on and such. Satanism is if I think you have done me wrong, I'll kill you.

It may not be what it's been made out to be, but it sure as hell isn't peaceful.

[Meiscool-2]

Religion is only useful to teach people common moral values. If it no longer does that, it should be discarded.