Yay

[Yellowvanblake]

Are we being serious or sarcastic right now? If serious, yes, America does rock. I googled all those 'controversial issues' and found zilch on the first two (feel free to point me to any news articles or properly cited blogs). By the way, the 'racists plotting to kill Obama' are generally skin-heads; which would be the equivalent of me looking at all blacks as if they were black panthers(unless I'm misinterpreting you), so while you're trying to 'expose' racism you're really just playing the racist yourself, accidentally or otherwise.

Red, the only commonalities of blacks I know of are a high black on black crime rate and a high abortion rate. It doesn't really take a rocket scientist to understand those issues; to solve them; however, might be a different story. I'm not sure how the president has demonstrated his understanding of the needs of blacks other than being black, so again, it does become an issue of 'skin-identity'.

[Archem]

Red, the only commonalities of blacks I know of are a high black on black crime rate and a high abortion rate. It doesn't really take a rocket scientist to understand those issues; to solve them; however, might be a different story.

Are we sure we want to call a high abortion rate a problem? Personally, I love the idea of abortion, and the fact that the option is being used to its fullest potential has me ecstatic! Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing, no matter what anyone else may think (and besides, freedom is the most prominent founding ideal of this nation).

[Cosmos]

I was listening to Power 107.5 and watching the channel 9 news.

[Archem]

Neither of those things mean anything to me.

[Yellowvanblake]

Archem, I think that the rights and freedoms of America's defenseless unborn should be protected as well. Unfortunately for me, a panel of judges decided that you're right and I'm wrong. Regardless of whether or not it's 'bad', it's a commonality among blacks. Communities are based upon commonalities, and besides the obvious (taste in music?) those are the only commonalities I'm aware of. Definitely not something a community should be built off of, unless, of course the idea of a community is just as empty as those commonalities.

Midnight, I'm going to have to take your word for it, even though I find it quite hard to believe. I think I just come to these forums at the most horrible timings, because I end up getting involved in a 'political' based thread and I really tend to be adversarial when it comes to 'political' stuff. I probably shouldn't have even posted in this thread in the first place! So you guys just do your thing.

[Archem]

Archem, I think that the rights and freedoms of America's defenseless unborn should be protected as well.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's any more alive than sperm at the point where it's still legal to abort. Sure, it has the full potential for life, and sure, it's at a stage where it's developing, but it's still not a person. It lacks a personality, it lacks features, it lacks any defining characteristics. Hell it doesn't even have a gender! It's not capable of doing anything on its own, either. It's basically a recovering vegetable.

Which reminds me, I don't consider a person in a vegetated state to be alive anymore, either. They sure can't argue with that, can they?
/distasteful

[fruckert]

Archem, I actually completely agree with you in that first paragraph
Plus I believe that a person should have a right to choose whether or not they want that to be done...I mean, that is what America is defined upon, right? A persons right to CHOOSE what they want to do?

[Archem]

Good to know that someone agrees with my twisted views on what a human actually is.

[Drace]

I googled all those 'controversial issues' and found zilch on the first two.

The second one is:

that one guy naming his son Hitler

I googled, I found this: Article about the Hitler kid

There are more articles out there, way more. Read one a few days ago about the kids being taken from their homes. Btw, this was the third link, so it's not hard to find. Can't imagine how you couldnt find this.

[Yellowvanblake]

Thanks Drace. I had actually already heard of this, as it's been all over national news, In fact, more recently I think the child was taken away (I might be wrong) because some government entity has decided naming a child "Adolf Hitler" is abuse, which I completely agree with.

I think I was just thinking that the old women unplugging voting machines and the 75,000 Obama tickets found in the trash were two separate issues but I guess they're just one?

[Drace]

Thanks Drace. I had actually already heard of this, as it's been all over national news, In fact, more recently I think the child was taken away (I might be wrong) because some government entity has decided naming a child "Adolf Hitler" is abuse, which I completely agree with.

I think I was just thinking that the old women unplugging voting machines and the 75,000 Obama tickets found in the trash were two separate issues but I guess they're just one?

Not sure, I just read it as one.

[Archem]

I would rather kill an unborn baby than to watch that baby being born, and live on the streets, where it would become addicted in drugs and one day kill me for a couple bucks.

BEST JUSTIFICATION FOR ABORTION EVER.

[fruckert]

Yup

[Ben]

you mean aside from ending a life for the lulz, of course

[Archem]

Well, like I said, it's not a life.

So no. There's still a need for a secondary reason required before "for teh lulz" becomes acceptable.

Like if they're absolutely ridiculously emo or something.