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Re: The News
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2011, 07:44:11 AM »
I'm just gonna state that no book is 100% true, someone will always make an event sound better / worse than it actually was. Writing about an mediocre life with "meh" happenings won't sell after all.

"The book of Tom and Bob. They went to the market and a thief asked for their wallet, they handed over their wallet then called their banks to block the cards. Tom was a bit shaken while Bob was angry. Then they had ice cream with their spare change."
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Re: The News
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2011, 02:45:06 PM »
Unfortunate to say that history books are far from true, one would need far to manage pages to include every vital part of history. And without every important factor - how can one claim it to be the truth?
When you reduce the contents of a book you also miss out on stuff. The writers weight the importance of facts and add what they think is important to know.
It's kinda like making a movie based on a book, half the book won't make it into the film and things will be a lot more action like than it was the book.

Pretty much every history book says that the states saved the world at the D-day, backed up by movies such as "saving private Ryan" and whatnot. But that's far from the truth, more -many more countries invaded Naziland about the same time, USA takes the credit for it though. Russia was beating the crap out of Nazi Germany from the east and had a good time burning things to the ground, why else would they get half a' Germany after the war ended?
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Re: The News
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2011, 03:19:36 PM »
Well, the problem remains. If don't want a book with 5000 pages you'll have to narrow things down.
And narrowing things down usually leads to generalizations and summaries that doesn't give you the whole picture, then the truth you learn is what the writers thought was relevant. So written truth = / truth.
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Re: The News
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2011, 06:34:06 PM »
Quote from: lucas_irineu on January 27, 2011, 03:10:26 PM
Russia could kick the USA's butt any time.
But all my modern shooters suggest that we'd win! Why would they lie to me about a coming war that we'd win?!

Also, their economy isn't in such great shape that they could afford a modern war with us. We may be in a slump, but we're quick to throw money at military operations.

Come to think of it, a big reason Russia was owning in WWII had to do with them fighting on their turf. Home field advantage and whatnot. They knew the land, they had their reinforcements and surplus supplies within shouting range, they had the pride factor of defending their motherland from invaders, they had ridiculous numbers, and they could handle their harsh winters. Germans, on the other hand, had none of this.
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Re: The News
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2011, 07:02:41 PM »
Russia waited for Germany to invade like many countries before them, after their defenses took care of the Germans they totally zerg-rushed the pants off Germany.
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Re: The News
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2011, 07:06:00 PM »
Yeah, pretty much.
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Re: The News
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2011, 09:27:56 PM »
Like there was ever a time like that (after 1641).
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Re: The News
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2011, 09:51:33 PM »
Quote from: lucas_irineu on January 27, 2011, 09:04:44 PM
Yay for Zerg Rushes.

Btw, yeah Archem, but I meant in the old days, when Russia wasn't as bad and the US wasn't as good.

I don't believe that Russia has ever not been "bad".  Its just what "bad" meant changed through the years.
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Re: The News
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2011, 08:13:59 PM »
Quote from: lucas_irineu on January 27, 2011, 01:45:44 PM
"Hitler was actually a great guy trying to fight off an evil alien species, but when the aliens went back in time and replaced him with an evil doppelganger version of himself that would start a World War on Earth."

I started to understand Lucas more when I realized that all of his arguments were just references to Epic Adventures.
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Re: The News
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2011, 08:22:46 PM »
Yeah, that's true.
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