Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013

[Archem]

That is too true.

[daoman89]

Maybe they'll make moves/ abilities that will counter the weaknesses?

[Prpl_Mage]

Sure you can use water sport or stuff like that, but those skills are usually not as effective as actually just swapping in a better option.

Water dragon like Kingdra is awesome because its' only weakness is dragon. Fire dragon like reshiram is kinda useless though, loses the weakness to ice but gets weakness to both rock and ground. Two types that everyone has. Stone edge and earthquake all the way. Still, deals with the ice beam issue.
Dragon grass would be like the worst idea ever. weakness to dragon would remain, 4x damage from ice, still grass weakness to bug, flying and poison. Only weakness that disappear is fire.

I think Red and blue were released like 1998 in europe so team rocket have been after pikachu for the last 15 years.

[daoman89]

i'd like to see a fire and water personally.

[Meiscool]

I'd love to see a fire/water. It would be an amazing tank for those ice beams aimed at your dragons, and since so few pokes can carry ice beam/Hidden power ice effectively and also have a rock/ground move, it would be a pretty safe switch. Opponents would have to think twice about sending in their own ground type as a check.
Weakness to electric keeps it from being OP.

Fire/Grass doesn't really interest me that much though. Basically loses all important weaknesses except to rock, but grass/fire coverage won't get you many places. Maaaaaybe if it is a special sweeper with some sort of gimick and decent movepool (think Serperior with Contrary only viable).
Water/Grass is tried and true, good tank potential. Wouldn't mind seeing another of this type either.

[daoman89]

Meiscool does his research.  I agree with you there.  Maybe we'll battle each other during the tournament on the 25th this month if you have black or white 2

[Prpl_Mage]

I like that they are doing all kinds of crazy combinations in the last two generations. I mean who expected a grass/ice combo or bug/electric? It's nice because the first two generations were kinda predictable with all grass types being part poison and all bugs eventually becoming flying or poison.
And of course that all flying pokes were part normal.

Can't see how water/fire would fail. Just make some sort of steamy poke. Lots of moves to give it such as scald

[daoman89]

Yeah, Abomasnow or whatever is a beast when ppl use it against me lol

[daoman89]

Off topic slightly but I'm playing online with Black 2 testing my team and I am DESTROYING this asian in a double battle.  And they do the most pathetic pussy-*** thing in the world and disconnect!  Except your defeat like a MAN!!!  The better trainer beat you!!!  RAGE!!!!!!!!

[Prpl_Mage]

Off topic slightly but I'm playing online with Black 2 testing my team and I am DESTROYING this asian in a double battle.  And they do the most pathetic pussy-*** thing in the world and disconnect!  Except your defeat like a MAN!!!  The better trainer beat you!!!  RAGE!!!!!!!!

Sounds like pretty much the players of every game that have a Win/lose statistics showing. Or even better, a win/lose ration displayed as a percentage. People will go great length to keep that in top tip shape.
Lots of online games need to count a disconnect as a loss, happens all the time in fighting games like soul calibur, tekken, mortal kombat, dead or alive ect.

[daoman89]

Yep. Disconnect = loss then i wouldnt care

[Prpl_Mage]

Well at least if your on the losing end. in fighting games its simple, check how many rounds have been won or who have the least hp.

in pokemon we have number of pokemons and hp there as well. can't be so hard for the game to realize which side is winning and granting him it if the loser drops.

[Archem]

In a game where the tables can so easily be turned, that doesn't work out. The best solution is to have the game read if the connection was legitimately dropped (the system remains on, but the battle has ended, where the system would make a quick save of that information, versus a power down where the next time the system is connected to the internet, it reports no such match, sending back a loss), or to simply count a disconnect as a loss. You could get complicated and count every successive disconnect as a loss (two in a row is one loss, three in a row is two losses, etc.), but it doesn't seem to be as helpful.

[Meiscool]

I think making Fire weak to Poison would solve all these issues.

[daoman89]

So all bug pokemon basically could counter fire pokemon and some grass.  Interesting