A Heart of Gold

[Fisherson]

Lol hi : p Sorry I've been absent.

Work is continuing, though I haven't been giving it the attention it deserves I'm afraid. I've got quite a few things going on 'being on my laptop' wise, and am also working from home so it's only occasionally that I feel in the mood to work on rm2k3 : ( I'll give you some screenshots if you like though I guess that'll count as spoilers!

I can understand that. I keep trying to go back to rebuilding old stuff on 2003 only to say "Meh should do more work on MV or learn some MZ codding" only to end up playing Minecraft or Spyro. =P But this one reason why I think we need to either stop making projects shorter or find new blood/try and advertise charas more and stop being so comfortable being a old boys club.

Screens would be nice though.

[Momeka]

Take your time, moose. I don't think there is no rush.

I think we need to either stop making projects shorter

Why would longer games be faster to make?

[Prpl_Mage]

Yeah I think next time we'll do something more like a collaboration rather than a chain. So each person makes a story connected to a theme or such and then we mash 'em together eventually with some sort of HUB at the start of the game.

I mean we started this in March 2019 and the waiting is killing me.

[Momeka]

Yeah I think next time we'll do something more like a collaboration rather than a chain. So each person makes a story connected to a theme or such and then we mash 'em together eventually with some sort of HUB at the start of the game.

Yeah, I like that idea too. I also like the idea of each game being set in the same world but as their stand alone game. And each game can build upon what is established in the previous ones. Like returning factions, npcs and such. That way we're still creating a shared world together.

[Fisherson]

Take your time, moose. I don't think there is no rush.

Why would longer games be faster to make?

Not 'faster' but more justified taking a year or two to get something exceptional. Worth the wait as it were. Don't get me wrong there's a formula to have both but honestly hitting it is hard. The first chain game had decent number of chapters and still is fun and memorable and it had 12. We stopped counting after a point in Wrath of Gaia but it was at least eight and it went well. Juno might have needed to conclude one chapter sooner or two but still it worked out pretty well at nine (ten technically but never finished that whole arc) Some say Spring Valley was perfectly balanced despite having shorter amount of chapters and I will admit it unfolded perfectly but I don't think it was the number of chapters being less or more, just think it was pure gold. But I think just as well as shorter can be good longer can be good too. The flow must be organic.

[Momeka]

I really don't think making a game longer just makes it better. In fact I would probably just feel more dishearten at a chain game taking two years to finish. In fact I really don't care if a chain game gets 1 download or 10000 (that said, it's of course fun if other people enjoy them as well). I really don't see the chain games as some sort of real game development business. It's just a fun community activity we do together.

If we wanted to make games for actual people to play or spend money on the chain games are really contra-productive for that. If a chain game turns out good it's mostly by luck, we have 0 planning, 0 communication, and just makes what we feel like when we get the chapter. Which is the whole point of a chain game and what makes it fun as a community project.

It's also the reason why I don't think adding more chapters is a good thing. The waiting for the game to be finished is the least fun part of the chain games. The fun is making your part and then playing the finished game and see how it turned out. I would even be down for 2 chapter chain games, imagine how fast the would be to make. Hell, we could do like 3 simultaneous and then just share them with each other.

[Prpl_Mage]

The fun is making your part and then playing the finished game and see how it turned out. I would even be down for 2 chapter chain games, imagine how fast the would be to make. Hell, we could do like 3 simultaneous and then just share them with each other.

Oooh, what if someone starts the game and sends it to everyone and everyone then makes their own continuation of it and in the end we have several different games that started the same?

[Momeka]

Oooh, what if someone starts the game and sends it to everyone and everyone then makes their own continuation of it and in the end we have several different games that started the same?

Oh yeah! I would be down for that!

[Fisherson]

Oooh, what if someone starts the game and sends it to everyone and everyone then makes their own continuation of it and in the end we have several different games that started the same?

You mean the original misconception of the word "Chain Game"? The one that uses a Chain Letter delivery system? Sounds interesting but it would get lost in somebody's inbox I think.

[Prpl_Mage]

So my phone reminded me that it's like a year ago I sent the game to Donut. I don't think he's coming back.

[Momeka]

So my phone reminded me that it's like a year ago I sent the game to Donut. I don't think he's coming back.

Yeah, I have been wondering what happened to him too. I hope he is okay. Did anyone ever talk to him outside of charas?

[Fisherson]

Yeah, I have been wondering what happened to him too. I hope he is okay. Did anyone ever talk to him outside of charas?

'Fraid I never did. I should add more Charas peeps to my Discord but I do get kinda busy on there anyway as a moderator for a server as it is. My friends are always "Dave come RP with us in DMs! Or Dave why don't you ever have any free time?" XD Always makes me feel bad but I've always been terrible at time management. Minecraft has tripled that.

[Momeka]

Figured it's time for the yearly check up. Are we close to finishing the last chapter?

[Fisherson]

Donut hasn't been on Charas since January 2020 according to his profile.  I think the project is sadly dead unless we cut his chapter and move on from the last one added to the collective project which I think was mine?

Edit:, nope actually it was purple and I never got leaked that  chapter oddly.

[Momeka]

It's moose that's working on the last chapter not donut or purple.