We may not be alone in this Galaxy

[drenrin2120]

Life on this planet has been massively fortunate; Earth has all the resources and conditions that make the development of life easy. There's oxygen, liquid water, stuff to eat, and along with evolution, Earth life hasn't really had a "struggle". This has happened almost entirely by coincidence. Life is at a massive advantage. On other planets, by coincidence, it's very unlikely that the conditions will be so perfect. There'd be some kind of compromise of conditions; good climate, but lack of resources, usable atmosphere but massive pressure. Any life developing there would have to struggle, and so would be at a massive disadvantage. If there was a difficult climate, most lifeforms would struggle to develop beyond one cell, because they wouldn't be able to support themselves. We've only come this far because our planet has been relatively nice to us (We reward it by sucking it dry and then burning it).

There may well be intelligent life somewhere, but it'll be so far away there will never be contact between them and us. They probably have better things to do anyway.

All this is true, but what is also true the amount of possibilities out there. There's what? A billion other galaxies out there? With what, a billion (maybe million) or so solar systems in each? And there's anywhere from 1 to (pick a number) planets in each solar system? Even if the chances are one in a million, that's a lot of chances for life even within our own galaxy. I sincerely hope we are not so unlucky that there is not even at least one intelligent life form within our galaxy, even if they happen to be on the exact opposite side.

[Ben]

Even if the chances are one in a million to the 23rd power

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these topics are full of fail though. People just seem to want to be optimistic. Sci Fi is so much more fun to make sound true then fact. The facts and statistics are not in favour. That does not mean the possibility is non existant, it just means that with all of the stupid amounts of planets out there, and the half handfull of ones we have found that COULD have liquid water and atmosphere, the environmental conditions of the planet wont allow for much more then some flan and an adamantoise.

I dunno, with things like this, I cant help but relate it to my own views on religion.
I have faith in facts, not maybes.

The alien life debate is silly. Of course it exists out there somewhere, but face it, were never gonna find it. And if we do, the chance of it being anything more valuable then a research specimen of single celled magnitude, is convolouted.

The thought that some super alien intelligence visiting us, is like a kid thinking santa is coming, And going searching for it is like hunting for Jew gold...you'll never get your hands on it.

We find these potentially hospitible planets for research. If we find some life, the sciencefags are gonna find cells, and bacteria and plants, and perhaps a space dog at best. They'll cut em open and find a cure for space madness.

*awaits flaming*

[Dragonium]

And going searching for it is like hunting for Jew gold...you'll never get your hands on it.

This may well be the best thing that any Charas member has ever said. This thread is full of epic soundbites.

sciencefags

Someone's been to 4chan lately.

All this is true, but what is also true the amount of possibilities out there. There's what? A billion other galaxies out there? With what, a billion (maybe million) or so solar systems in each? And there's anywhere from 1 to (pick a number) planets in each solar system? Even if the chances are one in a million, that's a lot of chances for life even within our own galaxy. I sincerely hope we are not so unlucky that there is not even at least one intelligent life form within our galaxy, even if they happen to be on the exact opposite side.

I'm not saying there isn't intelligent life, but anything with more than a few cells would be so far out and so different to what we know and so far away that we'd never know for sure. It's a nice thought, but it's not going to be a reality any time soon, and certainly not in our lifetime.

To whoever mentioned invasion, if we were invaded by aliens we just keep silent and do all we can to convince them that mice are the dominant species, Hitchhiker's Guide style. Problem solved.

[Moosetroop11]

All we need is a massive flag with a mouse holding it's middle finger up and the words 'your tentacle momma sucked in bed' underneath and the human race is pretty much safe.

[Ben]

Screw that man, Mice are cute. I say the flag should bear the resembalance of 50cent and Miley Cyrus

[Dominicy]

Screw that man, Mice are cute. I say the flag should bear the resembalance of 50cent and Miley Cyrus

If aliens are anything like me, that'd just make me want to destroy things more >.>

[drenrin2120]

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these topics are full of fail though. People just seem to want to be optimistic. Sci Fi is so much more fun to make sound true then fact. The facts and statistics are not in favour. That does not mean the possibility is non existant, it just means that with all of the stupid amounts of planets out there, and the half handfull of ones we have found that COULD have liquid water and atmosphere, the environmental conditions of the planet wont allow for much more then some flan and an adamantoise.

I dunno, with things like this, I cant help but relate it to my own views on religion.
I have faith in facts, not maybes.

The alien life debate is silly. Of course it exists out there somewhere, but face it, were never gonna find it. And if we do, the chance of it being anything more valuable then a research specimen of single celled magnitude, is convolouted.

The thought that some super alien intelligence visiting us, is like a kid thinking santa is coming, And going searching for it is like hunting for Jew gold...you'll never get your hands on it.

We find these potentially hospitible planets for research. If we find some life, the sciencefags are gonna find cells, and bacteria and plants, and perhaps a space dog at best. They'll cut em open and find a cure for space madness.

*awaits flaming*

Well, those figures could very well be correct, but honestly, and I know I'm going out on thin ice here, we haven't seen enough of our galaxy's solar systems to pull statistics out like that. There's so much space debris and numerous objects blocking our view of countless planets. We've only seen a small percentage of our galaxy's planets. I just think it's a little early to say, "Naw, the chances are 1 to 9X10 to the 999999." (<Exaggeration) And I really don't think anyone can put a statistic on how likely life is to occur on a planet. Granted it's not a great percentage, no one can say how low of a percentage it is or might be. For all we know there may be more than just organic ways to form life. (what I mean is like, single cell, Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen life forms) Who knows the countless ways there could possibly be to make life.

now, I'm not flaming you. You got your point of view and it's more than warranted, but I've got my point of view. And that's really all.

[Ben]

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[Fisherson]

Well, those figures could very well be correct, but honestly, and I know I'm going out on thin ice here, we haven't seen enough of our galaxy's solar systems to pull statistics out like that. There's so much space debris and numerous objects blocking our view of countless planets. We've only seen a small percentage of our galaxy's planets. I just think it's a little early to say, "Naw, the chances are 1 to 9X10 to the 999999." (<Exaggeration) And I really don't think anyone can put a statistic on how likely life is to occur on a planet. Granted it's not a great percentage, no one can say how low of a percentage it is or might be. For all we know there may be more than just organic ways to form life. (what I mean is like, single cell, Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen life forms) Who knows the countless ways there could possibly be to make life.

now, I'm not flaming you. You got your point of view and it's more than warranted, but I've got my point of view. And that's really all.

Yes,your are a inspiration to space explorers evreyewhare!w00t!
Now i don't suppose you have a way off this rock?

[drenrin2120]

Yes,your are a inspiration to space explorers evreyewhare!w00t!
Now i don't suppose you have a way off this rock?

Whoops, I accidentally deleted that Midi =P

[Miss Muffet]

What the heck? I don't get it.... oh now I sort of do. Geez, who calls a star HD 40307, it sounds like a TV or something. Man, it creeps me out. The universe is a big place after all and who knows whats out there. For all I know, there could be parallel dimensions and marshians and all those weird alien things from Doctor Who. (Thanks to television for making me half believe and be scared of aliens. I owe you one).