Why does every 1 prefer RM2k3 over XP?

[Leon_1990]

Originally posted by Osmose
Hey, for all you people whining about how hard it is to make RMXP resources - IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS MAKING ANY OTHER RESOURCE! There is no difference except for three things:

1.The program will not automatically resize your charaset. This allows you more detail, or less if you decide to 2x it yourself.

2.You are not limited by size. You can have a charaset or whatever you want as big as you want! The only rule is that your size has to be divisable by a number, and there are a few other size guidelines for things like the width of a chipset(but not the length, meaning your chipset can have as much as you want.)

3.You aren't limited to 256 colors. You can use any and all colors you want.

RMXP still sucks in comparison to the others I linked to, but saying "IT'S TOO HARD TO MAKE RESOURCES FOR IT" is NO excuse - it is exactly the same, if not easier.

oh no...I have to agree with Osmose  

well, I actualy prefer XP for 2 reasons

1: It is more flexible (scripting) which allows more unique games.

and

2: C'mon, MORE than 256 colours,HUGE graphics allowed AND the sweet echo on the midis...

I say RMXP should be allowed on this forum.
And I'm sure a few of you shall agree with me ^^

*makes petition* (I hope Alex reads this)

[carmen]

well, seeing as XP is TOTALLY illegal, alex doesn't want a part of it

[Leon_1990]

Is it more Illegal than the other RMs?

[carmen]

yeah it is, most likely becuase it's newer, I duno exctly how it works. lol but I'm following rules here

[Darkfox]

Anyways, freeware RPG Makers in development are way more powerful and compatible than RMXP, only more work is required.

[Leon_1990]

hmm, my only problem with XP is the fact that it lost a few features from teh earlier ones (scrolling panoramas to name one).
It feels a little incomplete to me....

but I still like it above 2k (almost teh same as 2k3 in my opinion)

[maxine]

i think Xp shall still be restricted here... Its different than the other RPG makers and would only take some piece of the attention around here.. I love RM2K3.

[Trevlac]

It all comes down to opinions; closemindedness and openmindedness.  And then there are facts which are mostly overlooked completely or obscured by some to fit with their opinions.  I'm telling you, we should support 2k, 2k3, and XP.  It is rediculous to shun XP when MOST of you havn't even tried it but just jumped on the "hate xp" bandwagon.

What would it hurt charas to support xp? I would start making tons of resources again, for one, since I use it.  I daresay Charas couldn't be WORSE by supporting it as we're in the Dark ages.  What if this gets us out? What if we all come together under one banner?  Dammit, I'm sick of this battle between the different versions of RM.  Each one is DIFFERENT, and thus not better or worse than any other.

Not to mention the main thing I see is that no one wants to learn something new, a programming language, and a GOOD one at that.  Originally Ruby was a big turn off but I learned the basics anyway and it's my favorite language even over PHP and C# just sucks now.  Everyone is just afraid of change is what it all boils down to.  Grow up.

I hate conservatives and liberals.  Conservatives never allow new stuff so we keep the same old crap and miss out, while liberals do the opposite and fling away all of the old stuff though it may be good.  Same thing here.  Quit being fricking prejudice.

I respect everyone's opinions about "which is better" but truthfully, neither is better over the other.  I use all three versions at once.  Yes, XP is my favorite but I know that the others arn't dead meat.

And everyone may also be scared of not finding scrips.  I can easily remedy this.  Smo and I can program Ruby and rmxp.net has thousands upon thousands of scripts.

Because of the fact that Charas doesn't support xp, I actually go to the rmxp forums more often.

[DragonBlaze]

Hmm, I already posted why I think rmxp is better than rm2k/3, so now I'm just going to post why I think charas should allow stuff about rmxp to be posted.

1. Yes it is illigal, it may be more illigal than 2k3, but the fact is, it is NOT illigal to post graphics, tutorials on how to use it, or information on games that will be made with it. It is illigal to post your games made for it only if your using an illigal version, but theres no way to tell if you are or not (unless you say so).

2. RM2k3 will only last so long, its not going to be used forever, we might as well move on.

3. Charas not supporing rmxp will in no way shape or form convince enterbein to release and english version. The only thing it will do is lead members who use rmxp to go to differant forums that do.

4. If we support rmxp, then we may get more traffic from people who use it.

5. I make a lot of rmxp graphics including charsets and animated battlers, they're just picture files, and I believe some people may benifit from them if they don't want to use the rtp, but I can't post them, just because they're in a differant format.

6. If you don't like rmxp, good for you, thats your choice, you can also choose not to read topics that involve rmxp if its supported on charas, so it won't make much of a differance to you.

[Trevlac]

HERE, HERE!

Well said Dragonblaze

Yes, the big beef I have is the prejudice to a different IMAGE TYPE.  Jesus tapdancing Christ people, just because an image is any number divisible by 4 and has 16 distinguishable cells doesn't mean it's EVIL or ILLEGAL.

[Master Yoda]

XP would be decent if it was 2003, but with better graphics. However, with the introduction of Ruby and things like taking out Paralax backrounds have ruined it. Also, I've tryed to get resources for XP to make it more futuristic and less olden times, but have failed. Charas doesn't support it for a reason and that's because we realise that newer doesnt always mean better

[BlackIceAdept]

I agree we should be legally able to post the resources and games and its not that bad to set up a new area for resources I mean come on whats the worst thats gonna happen we get one or two sever crashes more a year?

[Osmose]

Ruby is horrible compared to more developed programming languages.

[Master Yoda]

I agree that Ruby is inferior to the likes of Java, but the whole thing about the new resources i do not agree with. Charas is in a difficult period, and with more bandwidth costs, we would be killing our resource heaven!

[DragonBlaze]

That may be true, but its pretty easy to understand and learn, just by looking at ruby a few times I could understand most of it (although I still can't make original scripts).

But if your good with developed program languages, you would have little need for rm2k/3/xp

And rmxp does support parallax backgrounds, they just have to be set by an event on the map. They can autoscroll, only thing is that to scroll it a certain amount at a certain time you may need a custom script (i've seen them around already though).

 

Charas doesn't support it for a reason and that's because we realise that newer doesnt always mean better

Some people think rmxp is better, and some thing 2k/3 is better, basically if you like the higher graphics and the ruby scripting system, rmxp is better, if you like a strieght forward easy system with easy to find graphics, rm2k/3 is better.