A question about Heroes

[Linkforce]

Originally posted by blackskullwarlock
They must look gothic too...to hell the blond spiky hairs.

In other words, Alkamar...I wonder why

XD  Gee...I wonder why too.....:p

Originally posted by shinotebasiiackh
A hero shouldn't be a 'hero'.

A hero should be a normal person who is pushed into a conflict and is forced to be 'heroic'

That's actually a really good point.  But...I can be forced to save a cat from a tree.  That doesn't make me a Hero.  It was a conflict where I had to be heroic...but I'm not really a Hero.  Get it?

[Revolution911]

Yeah...I never liked that whole "THE WORLDS FATE IS IN YOUR HANDS" situation either way.

[DragonBlaze]

I know exactly exactly what a hero is, the main character in a game :p

Well seriously, theres only one thing I look for in a hero. The will and stregnth to move on and overcome seeminly impossible hardships. He realizes what he has to do, and pushes himself to do it. Maybe not at the begining of the game though, then he can be like "I can't do it". But by the end of the game, he must be like "I must do it". And I'm only talking about big things, not small things like  catch the theif or whatever. I believe that should be up to the player if he wants to do that or not. I hate it when I want the hero to go save someone, or in turn not save someone, but the game makes the hero do the opposite of what I want. Then later on it comes back to bite the hero. By this point I'm yelling at the monitor saying "I told you so!"

Along with determination comes courage. Hope is always a good thing, and a character transformation is a must. Maybe the hero will be perfect at the end, but he should have his many many flaws at the begining that he constantly has to face and overcome througout the game.

Stats wise though the hero should be strong, and good at everyting. If I'm stuck with playing with a character througout the whole game, I at least want them to be an addition to my team in  a batter rather than a hassle.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Originally posted by Spike21
same i like to see heros make alot of mistakes and yet be protective of others

I hate those types of heroes. "I care for my friends and will die to protect them". Bah. I prefer those heroes who, when it comes down to it, aren't that heroic. "That man is attacking the villager! I must stop him!" or "The right thing is the right way to go!" Ew. "That man is attacking that villager! Meh, not my problem". Now THAT'S my kind of hero.

[Spike21]

Originally posted by Linkforce

That's actually a really good point.  But...I can be forced to save a cat from a tree.  That doesn't make me a Hero.  It was a conflict where I had to be heroic...but I'm not really a Hero.  Get it?

well actualy you are a hero to the cat and the little girl crying for her cat. She looks up to you but to some other dude that hates that cat your the villian (bad exaple) get it

[Linkforce]

Well, DB, the Hero you described is probably the most generic Hero I can think of.  The Hero has to make mistakes....to learn from them.  Nobody's perfect.

And ZKX, the Hero you thought of is a lazy mofo.  xD

But seriously...what I think is that a Hero doesn't choose to be one.  He or she has to believe in something...something that is so important that it's worth fighting for and maybe even risking your life for it.  That's how I see it.  That's why, with all those...CHOSEN ONE ideas, I just don't think it works out.  Because...nobody is really a chosen one.  So what if someone or something chooses you...doesn't mean you're fit for the job.  It's like your name was put into an enourmous hat with all the worlds names in it, and you were the lucky one to get picked.  
But that's just how I see it.

Anyways, we'll continue this discussion tomorrow.  I'm off to bed...XD  


 

[Drace]

To me, a hero is someone who did the impossible to do something great. I remember seeing on eXtreme (it's a show where they show extreme things, mostly accidents) once that a a helicopter crashed and a guy got stuck under it (think it's the pilot). Well there was another guy (his friend) and he lifted up the several ton weighing helicopter to save his friend. That's a hero.

[HeavensLastHope]

Originally posted by Drace
To me, a hero is someone who did the impossible to do something great. I remember seeing on eXtreme (it's a show where they show extreme things, mostly accidents) once that a a helicopter crashed and a guy got stuck under it (think it's the pilot). Well there was another guy (his friend) and he lifted up the several ton weighing helicopter to save his friend. That's a hero.

O.O.....holy cow, I have heard about people picking rolled over cars to save family or friends, but a helicopter....holy cow

[HeavensLastHope]

Lets see a hero.....hmmmm..

Well, a hero to me is someone faced with a dilemma. A dilemma that is focused upon his/her family, friends, and beliefs against unforgiveable odds. Having faith, courage, and wisdom, he/she will overcome these odds & come out victorious, and hopefully, save the people that he/she loves & cares for.

I could go more into this and give allot more "what is a hero" things. but I don't wanna tire my brain.  

[WarxePB]

Well, they've all given good examples of Heroes. But sometimes, there has to be an Anti-Hero. These characters are flawed, heartless and selfish. They are willing to use any means necessary to achnieve their goals, believing that the ends justify the means. Yes, some Villians could be considered Anti-Heroes - it all depends on the views of everyone else.
Even better would having one of the protagonists as an Anti-Hero - perhaps, at the beginning of the game, he has some goal like becoming the strongest man in the world, or slaughtering the people of a village, but during the course of the game, he realizes the meaning of life, and lays down his weapon and tries to fit in with the mainstream. Tons of character growth there.

[Grandy]

 I think it is up to you, really. I've seem all kinds of heroes, the strong one, the smart one, the quick one, etc, etc, etc. The most common hero, though, it's the "average" one. This guy here is not good in anything, but also isn't bad in anything, personaly I hate this kind. He's friends will be the oposite: They'll be REALLY good in one status, but will suck in all others, as an example, Ryu from BoF3 is an average hero, Garr is his strong-who-sucks-at-anything-that-doesn't-needs-strenght friend.


 And if you want to know my opinion, you shouldn't use "heroes", at least not in the literal meaning of the word, if by "heroes" you mean "main characters" OK, but if you really mean "heroes" as in "he is the choosen one to save the entire world" ... well, I think thats not such a good idea, see, everyone does that, it's easy and cheap, but how about a main character that isn't a choosen one, or one with special abilities or a special past? How about one guy who simply can fight well with *put generic hero weapon here* and has to, let's not say save the world, beat a gang of thugs in his town, after that, they call some more friends, a thing cojes to another, and suddenly he is involved with the mafia, learned something about this plan to start a war, and tries -not has- to stop it, but even so, he isn't a hero, not someone special, he is just someone who can kick some ass, leave it clear that anyone could do that, he just happened to be in the right place at the right time, but it wasn't profetized 253667 years ago he would do that.

 Or maybe not, as I said, do whatever you want.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
Well, they've all given good examples of Heroes. But sometimes, there has to be an Anti-Hero. These characters are flawed, heartless and selfish. They are willing to use any means necessary to achnieve their goals, believing that the ends justify the means. Yes, some Villians could be considered Anti-Heroes - it all depends on the views of everyone else.
Even better would having one of the protagonists as an Anti-Hero - perhaps, at the beginning of the game, he has some goal like becoming the strongest man in the world, or slaughtering the people of a village, but during the course of the game, he realizes the meaning of life, and lays down his weapon and tries to fit in with the mainstream. Tons of character growth there.

Exactly. That's my kind. The type that shows the negative traits of the human mind.

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by ZeroKirbyX

quote:

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade Well, they've all given good examples of Heroes. But sometimes, there has to be an Anti-Hero. These characters are flawed, heartless and selfish. They are willing to use any means necessary to achnieve their goals, believing that the ends justify the means. Yes, some Villians could be considered Anti-Heroes - it all depends on the views of everyone else. Even better would having one of the protagonists as an Anti-Hero - perhaps, at the beginning of the game, he has some goal like becoming the strongest man in the world, or slaughtering the people of a village, but during the course of the game, he realizes the meaning of life, and lays down his weapon and tries to fit in with the mainstream. Tons of character growth there.

Exactly. That's my kind. The type that shows the negative traits of the human mind.

Agreed. But, I also like a strong sense of honor, so.... someone that is rather negative at most times, but can controll themselves when the need arises.

[Ace of Spades]

Well, I like it when the main hero developes throughout the game. By this I mean change in personality because of hardships, relations with others and so on. For example, in my game Ace is spoiled, selfish, uncaring and lazy (with things he doesn't want to do at least). But, as the story progresses, because of things he faces his character changes. That's the kind of hero I like, someone who changes because of what happens to them. If the hero is automatically like "I am gonna save the world because it's the right thing to do and I should do it!" or something stupid like that, and that same attitude applies throughout the whole game, then the character is really flat. It's kinda like the arogant badass character, who stands alone. This character almost always changes the way he acts, whether it be because of a person or an event, this character's change is usually expected. If he stays a jerk the whole game, people usually get sick of him. Anyyyway... characters who have good personalities, ones where they actually have emotions instead of "omg save the worldz!!!11." Those are what I like.

[Meiscool-2]

*Agrees with Ace*

You know.... they really need an agrees with ace emoticon.