Carmen and Ghostclown

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Not to mention, the rules do not state "Posts/threads will be deleted without warning if the rules arent followed." The consequences are meant to be reasonable between both the members and the staff. Deleting threads/posts without warning or any kind of notification is not reasonable unless like I said is something extremely wrong. (ie porn, illegal links the works)

[DragonBlaze]

*sigh* there are so many good points in this topic. However, the real question is will any of it actually make a differance?

I would hope so..

[WarxePB]

My opinions on everything...

Multiple times, we have called for political reform in Charas. Most of the time, these are just stupid n00bs and/or newbies who don't know Charas well. But this time, we don't. We have an excellent mod team that enforce the rules well. Too well, perhaps. In other words... we need to relax a bit. I am still in favor of locking flame wars and keeping spam under control, but I think we should be more open to offensive topics.
As an example: If I posted the cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed right now, under our current rules, it'd probably be locked and deleted. I won't say that that's a bad thing - it isn't. Those cartoons are blasphemous to Islam, and they shouldn't have been drawn, or at least published. But, if we all relax a bit, and stop locking and deleting everything, we could actually have some great debates - referring to my previous example, it could be a great debate on Free Speech. Of course, there are always those ignorant people who hate Islam because of a few certain extreme sects of it, and would likely try to start a flame war of Muslim-bashing. As a community, we could stop that - instead of flaming back, we could explain, in civil terms, that we don't like to flame. If they continue flaming, we could just ignore them - only as a last resort would we delete their posts. Because, even if it's biased, it's still an opinion.

But I'm just rambling. I'll conclude with this: Only the community can change the community. I think we should all relax, and allow discussions that might have beent aboo before to continue, as there are some really intelligent people on this forum, and some great debates could come of a civil discussion on some topics.
And, as Kijuki and the rest of the mod team have said, locking and deleting threads should only be used as a LAST RESORT, when there's no way to salvage the thread. These... are my opinions.

[charaman]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade
My opinions on everything...

Multiple times, we have called for political reform in Charas. Most of the time, these are just stupid n00bs and/or newbies who don't know Charas well. But this time, we don't. We have an excellent mod team that enforce the rules well. Too well, perhaps. In other words... we need to relax a bit. I am still in favor of locking flame wars and keeping spam under control, but I think we should be more open to offensive topics.
As an example: If I posted the cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed right now, under our current rules, it'd probably be locked and deleted. I won't say that that's a bad thing - it isn't. Those cartoons are blasphemous to Islam, and they shouldn't have been drawn, or at least published. But, if we all relax a bit, and stop locking and deleting everything, we could actually have some great debates - referring to my previous example, it could be a great debate on Free Speech. Of course, there are always those ignorant people who hate Islam because of a few certain extreme sects of it, and would likely try to start a flame war of Muslim-bashing. As a community, we could stop that - instead of flaming back, we could explain, in civil terms, that we don't like to flame. If they continue flaming, we could just ignore them - only as a last resort would we delete their posts. Because, even if it's biased, it's still an opinion.

But I'm just rambling. I'll conclude with this: Only the community can change the community. I think we should all relax, and allow discussions that might be offensive to some people to continue. And, as Kijuki and the rest of the mod team have said, locking and deleting threads should only be used as a LAST RESORT, when there's no way to salvage the thread.

Warxe makes a very valid point. More controversial topics can spark much better conversation if the poeple involved can be mature and not spam.

[Archem]

I'm glad that this problem was brought up. I've been wondering what kept happening every time I tried to open a thread. And I generally don't "con" a swear into this, mebe on occasion, though. And sometimes I've noticed some get through, but those seem to get through well enough on their own. Example:


WARNING!!! EXPLICIT EXAMPLE AHEAD!!!


Do I have do do that to keep this in play?
Fuckin'.


WARNING!!! EXPLICIT EXAMPLE ABOVE!!!


I didn't really "con" it, I just commaed it instead of adding a g. That's not my fault that it isn't blocked. Sorry.
And in any case, I don't think that's grounds for deleting a thread. I kept my mouth soap-washed in those threads.

[Beck Skyler]

anyone else feel worried about this? i dunno but it seems like theyre gonna be biting at each others throats soon enough.

[Archem]

Not me, I'm too mellowed out from mild depression.

[Darkfox]

Hmmm... I leave for a little while and... -_-

[WarxePB]

Beck Skyler
anyone else feel worried about this? i dunno but it seems like theyre gonna be biting at each others throats soon enough.

Political debates on Charas are always touchy. It is likely that someone will spam and/or flame in this thread, but hopefully it won't degenerate into a massive flame war, as other threads of this sort have.

[MrMister]

Originally posted by SaiKar
ATTENTION: this thread will NOT be locked, moved, or deleted. Posts within it will not be edited or deleted except by their owners. It will play it's course. Further mucking with this thread will not be looked upon lightly.

Yeah. Yeah it will.

[Darkfox]

Originally posted by Warxe_PhoenixBlade

quote:

Beck Skyler anyone else feel worried about this? i dunno but it seems like theyre gonna be biting at each others throats soon enough.

Political debates on Charas are always touchy. It is likely that someone will spam and/or flame in this thread, but hopefully it won't degenerate into a massive flame war, as other threads of this sort have.

Yeah. Like we have the Bush haters, and those Bush hater haters XD.

[Desimodontidae]

Normally, I'd love to argue against charas government, but I havent really had a problem with it lately.

[Bart_Fatima]

I want to know if you guys deleted that one FF7 thread....


Is it really nessacary to delete threads? Why not put them in the junk area......or something there can be something valuable in there

[ZeroKirbyX]

Just lock everything, move it to the junk bin, and leave it be. If it has porn, crack dealer addresses, or ways to kill a cop, delete it. How hard is that to comprehend? "Dude your chipset sucks" LOCK'D! That's reiculous. Now, if it was something like "Dude your chipset sucks as much as you suck cock" either change his post to "Lookit me! I'm a leprachaun" or delete it. No reason to delete whole threads.

[Darkfox]

 

either change his post to "Lookit me! I'm a leprachaun" or delete it.

Ah memories...