Carmen and Ghostclown

[Razor]

Point is, mods don't act that way. How is that not a point?

[smokey_locs2002]

I've known about this forever I just shut my mouth about it and figured this phase would pass. I do remember Alex stressing
"Do not Kill any topics unless really really needed" and the same for editing post.

Now I see post editing and topic deleting all the time.. It's sadi when about 1/4 of the topics on a site gets killed..

I've lost hope for Charas long ago. There's so much I can and can't do on the forum just so the forum can look purdy to guest..or whoever the hell.

And I think this is just me but it seems us older memebers get treated better...

I am shocked many of my post have not been edited or any of my topics locked. Did you guys know I use to have 900+ post..

I guess I know now why I dont have that many post anymore.
(long ago before the "big wipe" I had over 1000 post)

[Kijuki_Magazaki]

Originally posted by MrMister

quote:

Originally posted by Snake Eater I mean, wtf? Why? Pretty pathetic in my opinion.

Ya good point.
Okay, who ******* cares? Did that change anything? You find this pathetic somehow? I find you pathetic, make a ******* point.

Yes it did.
Sorry Mr Mr, but you are the only person in here NOT making a point. And you are also flaming, so please stop.

I have screenshotted and attached the action for further analysis.

 

I've known about this forever I just shut my mouth about it and figured this phase would pass. I do remember Alex stressing
"Do not Kill any topics unless really really needed" and the same for editing post.

Exactly my point, tho like Sai said times have changes, I still do not think we should take actions at large.

Yes I am stalking, like i watch the stalking being done.. and the logs files arent helping my judgement.
V Hopefully it wasnt done by carmen

[Razor]

there's no way it couldn't have been done by Carmen, unless she gave out her password.


and Kairou was demodded for that.

[shinotebasiiackh]

She does it when you use the tag trick to say  ****

Remember: All the people in heaven are boring people.

[Robotam]

It's not in his sig so it has to be carmen.
I sure ain't alone to questions your metods of doing.. what exactly? You might be in much deeper water now than you were before.

Bah, totally unnecessary.

[GaryCXJk]

First of all, kudos to you all for resolving this maturely.

Next, I would also point out that a mod should not delete topics without noting why. Since you can't point out why topics get deleted, it's better to lock a topic with a closing post on why a topic had been locked. This is the policy most forums have.

Deleting topics mostly give the suggestion that this is a sort of dictature, a place where mods can censor everything. This is not right. Editing posts for malicious words is a better sollution.

I hope we, the members, the mod team and the admin team, learn from this, not only about the topic itself, but also the way we now converse.

[Razor]

My thoughts exactly.

Also, KJ's attachment made me think Almeidaboo made a quote bug  

[Meiscool-2]

*ahem* are Ghostclown or Carmen going to post their opinions any time soon?

[GaryCXJk]

Even if they do, would that make a difference? It's not like they HAVE to defend themselves. It's just something they need to learn, that's all. No concequences yet.

EDIT:
Also...

69th post in this topic

[DarkFlood2]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[WarxePB]

DarkFlood2
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

That's what I said, fool. *kicks* *hard*


Yeah, GC and Carmen don't need to post here. They were doing what they believed to be in everyone's interest.

[Robotam]

 

They were doing what they believed to be in everyone's interest.

We don't know that. I'm guessing they weren' t thinking at all sometimes.

[Meiscool-2]

Originally posted by Robotam

quote:

They were doing what they believed to be in everyone's interest.

We don't know that. I'm guessing they weren' t thinking at all sometimes.

Agreed. Once, Ghostclown flamed me, and when I retorted, he deleted my post, yet kept his. If his true intention was to not start a fight to begin with, then he should've not posted, or deleted both posts. That doesn't show much of a public interest right there to prevent a vendetta, rather more of a personal use of power to get his point out and prevent others from posting against him.

[Almeidaboo]

Originally posted by Snake Eater
So, I thought I would bring this up here to:

quote:

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This post was edited by CARMEN.

I mean, wtf? Why? Pretty pathetic in my opinion.

LOL, I didnīt see this! LOL...So childish.

Lemme tell you guys something about law (I study that, so I know what iīm talking about).

There is a latin (roman origins) phrase that says: "Dura lex, sed lex". Everyone knows what that means: the law may be hard, but itīs still the law. Now isnīt that outdated? Isnīt that old?

See, Iīm not promoting anarchy, obviously (otherwise why would I study law?). The law is not responsability of the people who created them only. The law is responsability of the one that apply it.

Many times we have laws that are simply unfair or insuficient to give the issue a solution. What do you do then?

In Brazil (specially where Grandy lives) there are some judges applying what they call "Alternative Law". Itīs not a parallel law to the official one, itīs not illegal. Itīs about the way they apply the existing law; they give the law the best reading so that itīs fits better both the social reality AND the concrete case. That means they try to give the law a more fair and justiceful (invented word) function, without disrespecting it.

A good law applyer, IMO, is the one that can make the law work  in every social context, without pushing them aside. The best judge observes the social changes that ocurred since the law was made, and adjusts it so that it is effective.

Weīre the society, the MODs are the judges. If the MODs didnīt observe the changes in the community (that Sai talked about), we have two problems: the laws and the operators of the law - the Mods.

Now, something else must be said: Carmen and GC are both responsible people. Theyīre present, theyīre idoneous and theyīre compromised with this community. They do their job, and them we can trust. What we need is not a MOD replacement, but we need them to see this and rethink the way they use the powers given to them. Itīs not like they should leave the MOD team, not at all. They just should upgrade themselves.