Final Fantasy Worlds

[Grandy]

 Okay, so, have you ever noticed two Final Fantasies were never set in the same world? We have Spira of course, but that's X and X2, which doesn't counts.

 But then, there's this theory that I came up with, that all the worlds are actually the same, but in diferent times.

 What leads me to think this was mostly FFT. For two reasons:
 There are ruins with the same name and references of past Final Fantasies Characters, and in sidequests you can find Materias and such.
 And for the main reason, in the Cloud sidequest, notice he appears through a Time Machine, not a Teleporting Device. Which means, he came from a diferent time, not a diferent space.

 Now, there is another reason, but I'm not pretty sure: Chrono Trigger. I many times heard Chrono Trigger was part of the Final Fantasy series, and even once or twice it was refered to me as "Final Fantasy Chronicles". I'm not pretty sure about that, but it would make even more sense if it was. In FFT, there this ruin called "Floating Island" where is said that "Mages Used to live". Sounds familliar? Why, it's Kingdom of Zeal!
 That would also explain why there was a time machine hidden in a destroyed city, which could be explained as one of the 2300 a.D. ruins, where the Epoch was found. Even though the time machine does not resamble the Epoch in any way, it was never stated in CT that the Epoch was the ONLY time machine.

 There were other reasons, but I can't remember right now.

[DragonBlaze]

Well, the problem is that the land masses don't line up. If the same world is the same in each game, the landmasses would have to be simular. True, over time land masses do change, but not that much.

I just think that final fantasy games like to kinda hide refrences to other games in the series from time to time. You see it a lot in FF9. I think they just do this for fun though, and they don't actually mean that the worlds are related.

[aboutasoandthis]

This sounds kind of dumb to me. I'm sorry. Don't get mad at me. Square intentionally puts references between their games. FFTactics is a BIG offender.

Go to FFCompendium.com and you'll see what I'm talking about. I can see where you came up with the idea.

I'm making an FFFangame so I do my homework.

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Why did you BEAT ME HERE?!?!

[Dragoon de Sol]

I believe the worlds of 7 and 9 coexist for a reason.

When playing as Zidane in the Lindblum weapon shop, push X next to the wall. He will look at the assortment of swords, and look at one saying, "I know a spikey haired guys who uses a sword like this." Or something to that effect. The sword he is looking at is none other than Cloud's Buster Sword.

[Grandy]

 About the landmasses, how many times did you play a sequel where the landmasses were exactly the same


 And the series never came to an end. I'm almost sure they'll link all the story line, otherwize, there was no point for making it a series.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Dragoon de Sol
I believe the worlds of 7 and 9 coexist for a reason.

When playing as Zidane in the Lindblum weapon shop, push X next to the wall. He will look at the assortment of swords, and look at one saying, "I know a spikey haired guys who uses a sword like this." Or something to that effect. The sword he is looking at is none other than Cloud's Buster Sword.

FF9 has refrenses to pretty much every FF if you look close enough, thats because when they were making it, they wanted to use a lot of the elements they used in older ff games, thats why they had the crystal and the 4 guardians, garland, etc.

Landmasses do change from game to game, but whole continants and such were added and removed. If they planned to make these games sequals, they wouldn't completely remake the whole world in every game.

The reason they use the ff title is because they use ff elements in every game, chocobos, cid, etc. Plus FF is a big name, just by slapping FF on the title, it gets a big hype and usually good sales.

[Grandy]

 The first and the second Final Fantasies didn't had Chocobos. Or moogles. Or Cids.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by Grandy
The first and the second Final Fantasies didn't had Chocobos. Or moogles. Or Cids.

Yeah, but one, three, four, and five, were all about  the crystals. I never played through two yet, so I don't know if that deals with the crystals at all, but I'm guessing it would. Originally, thats how the games were related. Though, that idea got old after a while so they had to modify the story a bit and make it more original from game to game. And actually, the crystals in each game always locked something away or whatnot, then they were destroyed, the bad thing released, then killed, if the games were linked, the crystals couldn't have spanned across multiple games unless new ones were created.

[Meiscool-2]

They make past references for the hardcore gamers.

Example, Illusion of Gaia wasn't an FF game, however, in FFT, they make references to the lands and items in the game.

They arn't all of the same world. They are just new games with new worlds. That's what I like about FF, when you pick it up, you don't expect it to be a continuation of the series, like MGS.

And yes, FF2 DID have Cid AND Chocobos. FF1 I think had Cid, but I'm not sure.

[Dragoon de Sol]

Well...it all depends how technical you want to get.

When first made, I believe FF2 did not have cid or chocobos, but it it did here.

FF2 here is different then FF2 from japan. Now, though, we've but the Final Fantasies in the order Japan has them.

Basically, what we got as FF2 was FF4j, and FF3 here was FF6j.

As I said though, we've put them with their correct names.

[aboutasoandthis]

I'm a nerd. I've played every single final fantasy game out there. Including FF3 for NES. You'll have to follow this logic.

With FF1, they were on the verge of bankurptcy (GOD KNOWS I SPELLED THAT WRONG). They just needed sales. They created the choose your own party system, and put on a decent storyline. It sold!

FF2, they were pretty much competing with Dragon Quest. They actually made a storyline. They put in a build your own playing style of game.

Here's where the chocobos and stuff come in. They needed mascots (Again to comepete). This is when they started to use Cid. The moogles were there as "beavers." Their main mascot was the Onion Knight.

FF4, this is pretty much where all Final Fantasys come from. The deep-yet-corny storyline, the Active Battle System, the Chocobos, the moogles, etc. are all here. FF9 took a lot of ideas from this game. That is why FF9 is my favorite. FF9 almost followed the bible of Final Fantasy to a T.

If you really want the same world, Ivalice appears in FFTactics, FFTA, and FF12. It even uses the same geographical features like DragonBlaze was talking about.

BTW, I might be off on the information above. Can someone correct me?

[Meiscool-2]

I'm talking about DoS FF2.

[I Have a Sandwich]

As for land masses, I blame Bahamut. Too many kabooms. Messed with the dirt.

[SonicChaos7]

I think that instead of giving the Final Fantasies numbers, they should give them different titles. It won't give people the idea that it's a sequel. I don't like it when everyone who hasn't played or heard of FF asks if it is a long sequel.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by I Have a Sandwich
As for land masses, I blame Bahamut. Too many kabooms. Messed with the dirt.

I can agree with that :p