Final Fantasy Worlds

[Apex]

Actually, the person who wrote the scripts for Final Fantasy VII - X-2 (Maybe VI...) Claimed that Final Fantasy VII and X were directly connected by story...

This sums it up...

Shinra, the name of the little genious in Final Fantasy X-2, claimed he discovered a new energy source by drawing energy from the Farplane using Machina, Which is the same method used in Final Fantasy VII that the company called Shinra uses to suck Mako out of the Lifestream.

The suggestion is that The inhabitants from Spira drained all the life out of Spira, then moved on to the world of Final Fantasy VII (Gaea I believe.) Where they met the Ancients (The Cetra, the race Aeris belonged to.) And began to suck the life out of the planet there....

Oh, and IX has refrences to just about every Final Fantasy... And even Starwars...

By the way, this isn't a theroy, the guy who actually wrote the scripts and stories for the series, came out and said this.

[Razor]

You know 8 bit comics? In one of those "write to red mage" things, someone once sent in a theory about the chronological order of FF1 through 10. It was pretty good.


Also, a theory is that when Cloud feel into the lifestream, he went into FFT. After he left that, he washed up on the shores of FF7 land again. Or something.


Also, in FF7 they reference Xenogears (or saga), around the same part, when Cloud is sick and in a wheel chair.

[Archem]

Originally posted by Razor
Also, in FF7 they reference Xenogears (or saga), around the same part, when Cloud is sick and in a wheel chair.

Explain, as I'm not that far into FF7 (my friend can't find disk 3 and I'm stuck on disk 2 [ok, I'm not stuck, I lack incentive]) and I've never played any of the Xeno games... Yet...

[Razor]

You control Tifa at the time, when you find him in in Mideel he says something on the lines of "zeenugiaahs" or something phonetically similar.

Oh, and Aeris dies.

[Cerebus]

Originally posted by Meiscool
FF1 I think had Cid, but I'm not sure.

Cid is only mentionned in FF1, by the Lufenian.

Originally posted by aboutasoandthis
FF4, this is pretty much where all Final Fantasys come from. The deep-yet-corny storyline, the Active Battle System, the Chocobos, the moogles, etc. are all here.

There's no Moogles in FF4. You probably confused them with Namingways.


I don't think FF worlds are the same in different time... Like DragonBlaze said, the land change too much. Too many things change... they only put reference for... I don't know... in FF1 ( DoS ) in Elfeim, there's a grave where you can read ''Here lies Link'' and... it is sure not related to Zelda.

On other hand, in Zelda ( first ), Adventure of Link, A Link to the Past and Ocarina of time, it is always Hyrule... but the lands are all different... Uhm...

Oh and... in FF7, Caith Sith dies too, but he resurrect... kind of...

[Razor]

No, no. Reeve controls Cait Sith from Shinra HQ. He just made the first Cait Sith figure out the puzzle to get the black materia, crushing himself in the process. Then Reeve sent in another Cait Sith and everything worked out Milhouse.

[Cosmos]

Originally posted by SonicChaos7
I think that instead of giving the Final Fantasies numbers, they should give them different titles. It won't give people the idea that it's a sequel. I don't like it when everyone who hasn't played or heard of FF asks if it is a long sequel.

XD!

You guys are horrible, lol.

Everyone loves FF, so they're just making it original and yet unoriginal at the same time. Take the best parts of FF and adding it to the newer game. I like the idea, they should so make a "FF Celes will kick your ass!" game.

[Grandy]

 In FF6, there was this other "plane" where the espers came from. Espers were the summons. Then in FFX, the smmoners interact witht he farplane to summon creatures to aid in battle. it could pretty well be that the farplane is actually the place where the Espers lived.

[Weregnome]

Actually, there are a few planets in the series, but they don't really interconnect (unless direct sequels). Ivalice (FFt, FFt:advanced, FFXII), Spirea (FFX and X-2) and the one they said for VII.

[WarxePB]

I'm going to bet that... Squenix is going to explain the relationship between the FF games, probably through another FF game. Probably something to have to do with the elemental crystals (materia/magicite/spheres = lesser crystals, there was a crystal in FF9, and they'll retcon it to have crystals in FF8 and 2j) or Cid (they're all the same person), or possibly some outlandish new character who can travel through spacetime (explain Chrono's relation to FF)

[Ben]

As for the landmass thing.......

With all of the cataclysmic events ravaging the world, all of the Horrible disasters, all of the summoned God-Beasts, and All of the Underground Rivers and such, A rapidly changing Landscape like that of the planet in Question is not out of the question.

ALSO....
Another theory....

With all of the space travel involved in these societies, Could it then be possible that there are Pioneers travelling about a cluster of plantes....Nay, not planets.

Moons.

Im pretty sure the final fantasy worlds are  clusters of moons orbiting a gasseous giant of a planet, Eminating solar energy off of a reflective Surface, giving the Illusion of sunlight.

[DragonBlaze]

Originally posted by gemini
As for the landmass thing.......

With all of the cataclysmic events ravaging the world, all of the Horrible disasters, all of the summoned God-Beasts, and All of the Underground Rivers and such, A rapidly changing Landscape like that of the planet in Question is not out of the question.

ALSO....
Another theory....

With all of the space travel involved in these societies, Could it then be possible that there are Pioneers travelling about a cluster of plantes....Nay, not planets.

Moons.

Im pretty sure the final fantasy worlds are  clusters of moons orbiting a gasseous giant of a planet, Eminating solar energy off of a reflective Surface, giving the Illusion of sunlight.

The only problem with that is that the worlds themselves have moons. The moon in FF8 played a big role. So unless they're moons with smaller moons, I doubt that.

Besides Ivalace and spira, there are gaia and terra. And terra is just another name for the earth. Terra was the main planet it FF9, but Gaia was also in FF9. I believe Gaia was the name of planets in other games of the FF series.

And really, differant people write diffearnt FF plots. If someone made a plot for two games, then yeah, maybe they added little things that would connect them a bit. But if two diffearnt people wrote two differant games, they're not going to make them connected to each other.

As for FF6 and FF10 in the farplane and summons. That doesn't prove anything. FF4 or 5 (one of the two, I forgot which one) also had a seperate world for the summons. But guess what, so does hurculeas, does that mean that its a part of the FF series? Summons are meant to be powerful beings kinda like mini-gods, in almost EVERY game, story, myth, legend, movie, imortals live in a differant realm. So if multiple games in the ff series have that, it doesn't mean squat. I don't know the story of FFX very well, but aren't the summons in that games basically 'dreams'? And these dreams only staretd 1000 years ago when zanarkand was destroyed or something like that, so, unless all the games with summons happened within those 1000 years, the summons wouldn't be present in other games, but then if the games did happen in those 1000 years, sin would have been in all of them.

[Apex]

Originally posted by Dragon Blaze

Besides Ivalace and spira, there are gaia and terra. And terra is just another name for the earth. Terra was the main planet it FF9, but Gaia was also in FF9. I believe Gaia was the name of planets in other games of the FF series.

No, actually Gaia was the main planet of FFIX. The lesser one is Terra, which was home to the souless people, and the town Bran Bal. I think you had the two mixed up.... Oh well, no harm done... They both had identical moons as well...


Oh and the flow of souls is the same as in Final Fantasy VII, if you think about it... Concidering that the mist that inhabbitants Gaia before you stop the Iifa tree, is truely just a mass of souls, that are supposed to return to the earth, but are instead absorbed to Terra, to return life to their planet and citizens. Kind of like how Make is changed to energy..
Which is also alot like Final Fantasy X's feinds, which are just souls of people who dispise the living...

If you think about it, they are all really connected in some way...

Espers from FFVI are the souls of monsters trapt is stone, who give power to those trying to bring justice.. In FFX, the Fayth are those who are trapt in stone, that give their power to summoners..

Spheres are practically the same as Materia... Look at macalania woods, where you fight the master sphere beast... Auron claims that  spheres are created by the fountain where you fight the Master sphere, which looks an aweful lot like the Mako Fountain in FFVII, which is the source of Materia.. Plus both are used to enhance your characters... Stats and magic.

FFIX has refrences to just about every single other one... In Lindblum, there is old man Named Locke. There is a weapon called Kainslance. There is a shop in Lindblum (I think...) where you see a Sword and Zidane claims he knew a spikey haired man who used to use a large sword... (Which someone else already pointed out...) The four Chaos guardians are Lich, Kraken, Tiamat and Maliris (Which was originally Kary... But they look identical...) Which are the same as the Guardians in FFI. Same with Garland.

Oh, speaking of Garland... I WILL KNOCK YOU ALL DOWN!

[DragonBlaze]

But the four gaurdians were killed in FF1,  they were also killed in FF9, and they were also killed in whatever other games they appeared in. If you think about it, FF1 and FF9 can't go together. In 1, garland is kinda caught in a cycle, the heros kill him in the present and the past, they killed the gaurdians that braught him back. In 9, garland is from a differant planet, he was made to look out for that planet, the guardians in 9 fight for the other planet.

So unless terra resurrected the evil gaurdians and garland, it wouldn't work.

Plus, in FF8,  at the end, doesn't the sorcerous mearge the past, present, and future together? If that happened, the characters, cities, things from other FF games would show up when this happens.

[aboutasoandthis]

I'm just gonna stick with the fact that they have comepletely different storylines.

I DO believe however that certain groups of Square-Enix games have connections, just for references. Usually through those who character design or write different stories.

The Ivalice world has it's own language and it's own calender as part of a culture called Vandelia. Vandelia is the country from Vagrant Story, and you can learn to read the language in both Vagrant Story and FFTactics. Like Meis said, these games have references to IofG and the Ogre Battle Games.

I forgot his name, but who designs the Kingdom Hearts games throws references all over the place. The Bouncer had a lot of Final Fantasy References and could somewhat workout as a side story of FF7 (you'd have to REALLY force the storyline in). Dogstreet pops up in different games. The man even admitted he based Sora's character design on Sion from "The Bouncer."

This part is kind of off subject but could someone explain "The Lunarians" in FF9? In FF4, they were like sleeping moon people weren't they? I couldn't understand that part at all...
I just know they built Necron, the Final Boss.