Final Fantasy X Arguement

[A Forgotten Legend]

OK, this is an argument between my friend an me.



afl: I just started to get the element thing

afl: its confusing because it doesn't make common sense.

afl: v.v

augenauf99: with using them on correct enemies?

afl: no, what elements are good against what

augenauf99: actually it does make common sense

afl: otyher elements

afl:

afl: other*

augenauf99: "its confusing because it doesn't make common sense"

augenauf99: it makes sense

afl: Whats makes sense about it?

augenauf99: as in Fire<->Ice         Lite<->Water?

afl: thunder and water

augenauf99: lightning you dolt

afl: >.>

afl: How is water good against lightning???

augenauf99: think of what happens when you drop a drink on a computer

afl: And?

augenauf99: your computer (Lightning) DIES

afl: Most games its just lightning>water and then water>fire then fire>ice

augenauf99: then wats good against lite? hmm?

afl: Ah, its usually something like ground or rock

afl: then then ice>rock

augenauf99: which does not exist in ffx

afl: yeah

augenauf99: oh bitch you got jacked bitch

afl: ?

augenauf99: lol

augenauf99: u get my point of y its Fire<->Ice and Lite<->Water?

afl: hold.  I'm gonna ask about this to someone who has no clue about the game

augenauf99: u asked zack didnt u?

afl: no

afl: my dad

augenauf99: oh

augenauf99: lol

augenauf99: i assumed zack cuz he just got on

afl: He said water wouldn't do anything to lightning.

augenauf99: and yet think of a computer

augenauf99: it stands no chance (Lightning) against a drink (Water)

afl: But electricity would go right through the water

augenauf99: But the object utilizing it explodes, shorts, or dies

afl: still, its the lightning part of an object in ffx?

afl: is*

augenauf99: u just dont want to listen to the fact that i kno wat im talking about

afl: and if something gets wet, would it attract lightning more than something dry?

augenauf99: and kno it is not

afl: but, it doesn't make sense that water would be good against lightning!

augenauf99: YES IT DOES YOU CONCEDED JACKHOLE

afl: Ok.  I'm making a poll on charas

augenauf99: If you still dont grasp the fact that water is good against lightning after i have explained it in the simplest way possible

afl: still, it doesn't make sense.

augenauf99: you are one or both of these things: retarded, stubborn

augenauf99: YES IT DOES

augenauf99: ugh

augenauf99: ill give you examples

augenauf99: lite>water: lite evaporates/splits water

augenauf99: water>lite: water shorts/reroutes lite

augenauf99: fire>ice: fire melts ice

augenauf99: ice>fire: ice puts out fire

afl: argue on charas




What do you think?

[augenauf99]

It so makes sense.
hence my example with a computer.

if you need specifications:
Lite>Water: Lightning evaporates/splits water

Water>Lite: Water shorts/reroutes lightning. (Possibly changes the charge)

Plus i should smack you for half of what was copied an pasted ...

[Almeidaboo]

I would never read this. You fail at entertaining me.

[aboutasoandthis]

Dude, it's a video game. The element system was built that way as an excuse to make Watera & Wateraga, and to make the game easy.

End topic.

[Prpl_Mage]

Pretty logical:
Ice wouldn't do anything against a campfire unless it's a hell load of ice.
And a match wouldn't do anything against a pile of snow since it would die before the snow melts.
Lightning would make an area around where it struck electric for a second but that would just paralyze.
Water would just become smoke from the heat if it touched anything electric.

But in masses. All of those would be effective.
If I drop a snowman on top of a campfire? The flaems will die.
If I burn the snow with a napalm? It will vaporize.
If I drop a pair of wires into a lake? It will light up and fishes will float.
If I drop a bucket of water on something electric? It will probably kill itself.

But yes, water agaisnt lightning isn't that logical but let's say that the monsters only have a certain area on their body that hold electricity if this electricity would be chained to the head? It would take damage from it untill the water pours off. Like if I was using an electric wire to attack and you throw water on me so it links to my chest.

So, no more disscusion about this. Overkilling is the way to go.

[Apex]

Water cancels Lightning out.

If lightning is going to strike Water, it won't reach the end of the water before it ceases.

[Dragonium]

Ice does not put out fire. What happens is that the fire melts the ice into water, and then the water puts out the fire. So fire beats ice, but is then immediately beaten itself by the water it has created.

Water wouldn't do anything to lightning. If lightning and water were to meet in equal quantities, lightning would win.

Rubber beats lightning. Which is why we need more latex catsuits in RPGs.

For female characters only, obviously.

[HackersTotalMassLaser]

Originally posted by lucas_irineu
Water does nothing to electricity, I mean, try to throw water at a pikachu. Nothing will happen. Now, use a thunder shock at a squirtle. It will die. Pokemon is always right.

This.

[Ganocide_of_a_Kingdom]

It makes a lot of sense, huge sense to me. All elements have one element that is the opposite for each. Water and lighting/electricity is evident that affect each other, you wouldn't dare to put yer computer in a bathtub full of water, or would you touch a computer wit yer hand wet while it's plugged in, it's just common sense. They react to one another, and that's the basic concept used in games that have elements. If an electrical body was attacked by water, merely a fall of water, it would fry, and not only with water, water like liquids would do the same thing, lighting pretty much reacts to most fluids, if not all. A water body struck by lighting, would electrify itself, if you are wet and touch electricy, you are going to fry faster and worse than if you weren't wet. I don't think I need to explain myself on Fire and Ice (Although, I agree that Ice only puts out fire once it has melted into water, so ice is quite redundant, but I am sure it's added to give the elements a balance), Wind and Earth, I believe they pretty obvious. As long as you are talking about bodies housing each of the elements, it does work very well. In reality lighting hurts everything badly, but we are pretty made out of water ourselves, and lighting most of the time is fatal. Think about it, what would happen if we were mostly made out fire and lighting struck us? Not much for sure, some elements just do not react to one another.

[Grandy]

 If we are talking about eletric machines, then yes, water> lightingingonging i'm too ****ing tired to hitbackspace

But we're talking about pure eletrecity. Like, throwing a bucket of water at a lightning would not make the lightning stop, in fact, it would rush through the water and expand. It's not hard to see who's at advantage in here.

[Musha]

What doesn't make sense in FFX is that water doesn't hurt fire much.

[Ganocide_of_a_Kingdom]

Originally posted by Grandy
If we are talking about eletric machines, then yes, water> lightingingonging i'm too ****ing tired to hitbackspace

But we're talking about pure eletrecity. Like, throwing a bucket of water at a lightning would not make the lightning stop, in fact, it would rush through the water and expand. It's not hard to see who's at advantage in here.

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Oh, wait... we are talking about pure electricity? Then I guess I am confused, I thought this was about monsters that hold a certain element as their innate.  

[augenauf99]

There is nothing in the game that is pure electricity. Well that is except for the lightning elemental. however i can explain how that would work with water killing it:
1: the water strikes the elemental
2: the extreme heat and energy splits the water into hydrogen and oxygen
3: what happens to hydrogen when it is exposed to an energy source?


IT EXPLODES!!!!!!!

4: the oxygen then fules the fire

This concludes how water would affect a pure lightning entity

[Grandy]

Originally posted by augenauf99
There is nothing in the game that is pure electricity. Well that is except for the lightning elemental. however i can explain how that would work with water killing it:
1: the water strikes the elemental
2: the extreme heat and energy splits the water into hydrogen and oxygen
3: what happens to hydrogen when it is exposed to an energy source?


IT EXPLODES!!!!!!!

4: the oxygen then fules the fire

This concludes how water would affect a pure lightning entity

 Then, again, we are trying to use science here to explain an elemental.

 Think about it, en eletric elemtental, it's basically a thunder walking around. It's appears, get discharged through the ground, disappear. Yippee. Free XP and most definetely an overkill.

 But seriously, up until now I've seen people talk a lot about how water could kill and eletricity-fueled being. I'm not saying that that's not right, but it's not the beings WEAKNESS. Fire can destroy an computer as well as water does, even an overcharge of eletrecity does it. Nay, I'm concerned about Water being eletrecity's WEAKNESS, not simply damaging it.

[Meiscool-2]

It should be Thunder beats water, water beats fire, fire beats ice, and ice sucks in general. In the earlier FFs, thunder was the dominate power.