What happens if I kill myself?

[Koopapooper]

You goto hell if you kill yourself apparently or you goto heaven if you accept Christ. Either that or you die and nothing happens. Just...Blank.. Or you live your life with hope of something. (Maybe cookies) Or you get to have 42 virgins if you blow yourself up.
Look at all the possibility's. Oh and you could reincarnate into a horse. Tsk tsk tsk. No one can tell ya what happens. Just a wait and see thing.

[coasterkrazy]

God exists because...?

Well, I already gave my metaphysical two cents...

And based on what I said, to answer your question, the line ends there... God exists because... and that's about it. There isn't much you can say after that.

[Moosetroop11]

XD You could say the same about mace-in-headism.

But whatever. The inevitable conclusion of these discussions is no conclusion.

[Archem]

I believe in a God because I detest atheism. It just seems so negative.

However, I do live my day-to-day life without ever thinking about God. I'm almost like a self-hating atheist, since I completely ignore any traces of a God and hate anyone who interjects God into anything I'm involved with (or not involved with) without a good enough reason. I also have theories about God, but those are too much fun to get into without starting a whole other thread about. Thread hijacking for the purpose of a wicked conversation (wicked in both ways) is just plain wrong.

[coasterkrazy]

But whatever. The inevitable conclusion of these discussions is no conclusion.

Pretty much. I've learned to stop debating and just live.

[HackersTotalMassLaser]

I am Christian, so I know that if you kill yourself on purpose you might go join your favorite wartime heroes in hell, and burn with them. Of course if you just want to believe that you die and not think a thing and be total darkness, going around in circles, or go join the supreme alien in a different dimension, or reincarnate as a mucus slithing snail to move up in life, or even wake up in a futuristic society just to realize that your whole life was a dream and your real life has just begun, then go ahead, and find out. God gave you a free will to do whatever the hell you want. But I wouldn't recommend it. This universe is too gigantic and too majestic and too perfect to have had no Creator.

As for Atheism: It is a religion. They even have their own 'church' now. And i really don't get it. Why spend your brainpower trying to debate and stop "something" that you believe it doesn't exist.

About scientology: lol, has always reminded me of a Resident Evil scenario.

I only have faith.

[Apex]

What makes you think things are so perfect? Because it's the only way you know it? Just because things work, doesn't mean it's somethings grand scheme or perfect by any means "Perfect" as christians like to use often. I'm not going to discriminate against what you believe in, or downgrade it, as everyone else feels the responsibility to do so though.

I have one philosophy I'm fond of though: Every religion caries a similar message on how to live your life, if you live it in a good way, do good things for others, don't cause problems and overall lead a good life, I think that if there were a god, regardless of what it is, it'll see you lived your life in a good fashion and probably have mercy, whether you spent your life groveling or not. So I choose just not to worry about it, and not be evil throughout life, and not tell people they're wrong for what they believe in.

[Revolution911]

Religon on internet lol


If god exists, I think he laughs at religons.  Gods got a killer sense of humor.  Seriously.  12 dollars for a burger, fries, and lemonade?  What an ***.

[ZeroKirbyX]

Rev, 'tis Charas. Srs bsns.

[Revolution911]

My mistake.  I forgot my monocle and tophat, brb

[Ben]

I recently read about a letter that was found from Albert Einstein to a personal contact of his, where he shared his views on god and relgion.
Allthough I do not have it with me for direct quoting ala copy pasta...It went something like this;

"Religion is a crutch for the weak to describe the world around them"

Its my personal belief that we are on the verge of disproving the existance of God, with Science.
I personally have no merit to give religion. And I think too many people confuse religion with spirituality.
I think you "love your mother" becuse humans behave like pack animals, and its a chemical loyalty to your "herd" even if you live far away, you keep your herd together.

I think science has everything pretty much explained, and what theories have "holes" are being looked at pretty closely.
I think if there "were a god" that went through all the trouble to create heaven, and give you free will would be a pretty big controll freak ***hole to create a hell for excersizing free will. I think having "faith in god" is a horrible misplacement of faith.
And I think if you are going to justify living a life of suffering with a hypothetical eternity of bliss, youre kidding yourself to the point of robbing yourself of lifes good times.



This is going to be the only post I make here...and I will end it by saying I agree wholeheartedly with Mr Einstein, and think rather then misplacing your faith by revering things that are grossly improbable and unrealistic, it would be prudent for you to open your eyes and start putting faith into the potential all of us have to become better lifeforms. We would all benifit from it.

[Uberpwn_w00t]

Okay. Iīm going to make up an example religion to explain my views on this matter. It will be called Bobism.

     It all starts with a guy that writes a book. His book lists all the flaws of mankind, and all the steps one should take to avoid these flaws. It also lists all the characteristics of an ideal human being. Sounds a lot like a self-help book, doesnīt it? Why isnīt it an ordinary self-help book? Because he adds something to it, something to make it a bit more interesting. He adds an omniscient, all knowing, loving, caring, altruistic being. Then he says, "Hmm, Iīll name it Bob." So we have bob here in this self-help book, and the book is all about Bob, and how great of a person is, and how you could be a great person too, if you did what Bob said. Bob even has a reward waiting for when you die, if you follow his rules! He holds his arms wide open, and you know you can be at rest when you die, because not only do you have the security of knowing you are a good person, but you also know Bob is waiting for you in the end, and you can eagerly await his loving embrace. Itīs not a bad concept is it? It makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, right?

Then somebody takes the book too far. He goes insane over the book. He starts treating the book like Golem treats his precious ring. He starts living life with the book as his strict guide of doing so. He is the beginning of Bobism. He feels he has been enlightened by this book, so he thinks everybody should take him as an example of how to live their lives. He crusades for everybody to adapt the laws of the book, and BANG! Religion.

And then it goes even farther. The governmental laws of society start leaning towards Bobist ideas, until eventually, the entire government is a Bobist powerhouse. Then the little land of Bob starts to realize that a different self-help book is quite popular a few miles south. Jimism? Heresy! They will have none of it! They must send in a crusade to assure everyone in Jimland is converted to Bobism.

It isnīt working, the Jimists strongly believe in the book of Jim, and refuse to adopt the laws of another book. What does Bobland have to think about that? Well, Bobland isnīt satisfied. Bobland wants everyone to be Bobist. "For their own sake." So Bobland kills them. They kill them all. Women and children, millions of Jimists slaughtered simply because they disagree.

This eventually leads to war. Everywhere. As well as the global conflicts, small scale civilian conflict ensues. Violent civilian conflict.

But is religion really that bad? NO.

Itīs the people who take it too seriously. I can write a book, you can write a book. Every next person in line can write a book.

Thereīs a thin line, and so far every religion has crossed it, in my eyes. That is the reason I avoid religion completely. It causes conflict. I donīt want to get into a fight with people over such stupid reasons.

[drenrin2120]

I think there's a difference between religion and believing. I myself am agnostic. What does that mean? I believe in the possibility of anything, in short terms. When I think of god, Catholicism or Christianity do not come to mind. Organized religion is one of the biggest fallacies of man, and if there is a god, he'd agree with me.

Not because religions try to spread the word of god, but because they slaughter and enslave. We've seen this quite frequently in the past two thousand years. All in the name of religion.

I hate when people say that science so contradicts religion and vice versa. I think that science is merely discovering the ways in which god made the universe and that they both compliment each other. The bible is full of misinterpretations, hypocrisies and flat out lies. Anyone that believes the bible is 100 percent accurate is a blatant idiot. Hell, there's PRIESTS out there that agree. Priests that preach the word of god and the importance of the bible, that believe the bible has errors. And it's so simple, because humans wrote the bible, and throughout time people put things in the bible that favored them and helped them come to power or whatever.

So all together, my point is I despise organized religion, it's just another tool people use to gain power in this pathetic society of humans. But that is changing, slowly, but more hurriedly as time goes on. Thank god I am alive now than in any other time in human history. And if there is a god, well then there is a god, and I try to have sort of my own faith in him without religion or the churches. If there is a god, you do not need the Pope to reach him, because the Pope's a liar and god knows that too. If god exists, I don't believe there is an eternal flaming pit of hell anywhere for the sinners and blasphemers to sit and hold conference together until the end of time. But nor do I believe in a heaven for all "good" people to sit and have crumpets and tea together. But then again, I really don't know what I believe, which is a part of being agnostic.


*Text wall and 1/2* >.<

[Cerebus]

I don't believe in god. I don't believe there's any powerful presence or anything like that. For me, religions are just a pure invention. I totally agree with that quote from Einstein.

But to answer the question... I think that when you die, it's kind of like when you sleep. You dream... only difference is that you'll dream eternally. I don't know what else could happen, as I don't believe in reincarnation or heaven and hell. But I don't try to find out, I will when the time come.

[Tomi]

When I think about science, it tends to make me believe in a god even more.  Seriously, if everything works out so well, if things seem so intricately designed, how did all of this happen by sheer chance?  Or is that even possible?  In reality, scientists are starting to migrate back to the god position as they are learning more and more about our universe.