Uberpwn_w00t and Fruckert

[A Forgotten Legend]

Happy birfday!

Especially Uberpwn_w00t on his 1338th birthday! (And Fruckert on his 18th.  Not as impressive, of course)


(EDIT: Ha.  I took the Birfday boards virginity)

[zuhane]

Harpy Boffday!

[MissingName]

Babbadooya!

[fruckert]

Unfortunately Mother Nature decided to give me such a terrible cold that I can feel the stuffy nose in my goddamn eyes.

I feel terrible.

[Archem]

Yay, first real birfday!

Too bad about missing your birthday, though.

[A Forgotten Legend]

@ Lucas, I'm 18 and can't drink.  That's 21 in the US.  Wow.  I wish I would have foreseen the joke.

[fruckert]

No...
Drinking age is always 21 in the US, I don't know why you think otherwise.

On another note, I'm downright sick now.

[Cerebus]

Hahaha, here it's 18! Suck up, you pretzel bags!
However, I personally don't drink, nor smoke, so I don't really care. In fact, I wished it was 21 here as well.

Oh and yeah, Happy Birthday, gentlemen.

[Cerebus]

"Old enough to drink" doesn't necessarily means "Have the legal age to drink".

[A Forgotten Legend]

This is certainly true on campus. -.-"

[Prpl_Mage]

Drinking is 21 but driving is 16? Interesting.

[A Forgotten Legend]

Drinking is 21 but driving is 16? Interesting.

The driving differs state to state.  In my state for example, You can get your permit (drive with someone 21 or older or a spouse) 6 months before you turn 16.  After 6 months with your permit, you can take you license test.  That license is a 'Cinderella License" that enables you to drive until 11 PM.  When you turn 18, it automatically becomes a regular license.

With some new laws, I think after a certain year you can't get your license at all until you are 18.  Don't quote me on that though.

[Cerebus]

This is certainly true on campus. -.-"

It's true everywhere. Or nearly.
You can drive at 16, here. Heard they wanted to change it to 21. I more than fully approve. Too many morons driving. Yeah, a lots are over 21 already, but reducing the number of 16 years old trash who think driving very fast while drunk is nice (no offence if any of you find it amusing... no wait, actually, yeah, feel offended!) is not a bad thing, yes.

[fruckert]

Aw. Didn't you say something about everyone in your house being old enough to drink?

"Legal Adults" was the exact wording.

[Archem]

On the subject of drinking and driving (not together, I hope), I think that drinking should come before driving. Young drivers are already irresponsible and accident-prone. When exposed to alcohol for the first time (legally, of course), the resulting mayhem can be very severe. Now, if the same drivers have already been exposed to alcohol, know their limits, and are past the "get shitfaced because I can now" stage, they'll know better than to try mixing the two (hopefully).

Finding a right age combination is tricky, though. The younger the drinker, the less developed they are, and the less responsible they are with their drinking. However, with older drinking ages, driving ages would have to go up. Driving legally for the first time at later ages begins to become intrusive and inconvenient. In places with excellent public transportation, this becomes a rather insignificant point; however, in the United States, many places lack easily available public transportation. I would like to suggest 16 and 18, respectively, but I do find such a low drinking age irresponsible. 18 and 21 is a little better, but only learning to drive by the end of your teenage years can be a major inconvenience. It really is a quandary. Still, either one is better than the general 16/18 and 21 found in the US.