An Official *English* Version of 2k3 Approaches!

[Liberty]

Petition for Signatures
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This suggestion was thrown into the table and so we have to ask, if we were to release RPG Maker 2003 in English would you buy it?
Vote and post your suggestions here~

Just a note, take the EULA into consideration. This means you guys shouldn't use patches/plug-ins/external programs if you want to use RPG Maker.

Well, what can I say? There's a possibilty that Degica/EB! will look into creating an official English version of RM2K3 if there's enough demand for it. What do you all think? Should we embrace this momentous occasion that would allow us to use 2K3 legally? Would you pay for such a thing? Let your voices be heard!

And sign the damn petition! <3

Also, please spread the word around to any and all sites you frequent where people use the program. The more people made aware, the better!

(Wasn't sure where to put this, so I hope here's okay.)


Disclaimer: This was requested by a fan - namely me - to a staff member, so no hatin' on Degica. Got an issue, take it up with me and I'll show you my reasoning. Since some people are asshats. (Not necessarily anyone here, but there've been some people that are being a bit douchey about the idea.)

[Prpl_Mage]

I hope this doesn't count as being douchey but the fan made translation have worked pretty well these last 9 years. Not sure if I would get another copy just because it's an official translation.

[Ben]

I think I would stick to the "Illegal" version. I wouldnt pay for an official version of software that is pretty much obsolete and nearly abandoned.

If this official english version were to export in various forms, or had multiplayer support...or some manner of worthwhile enhancement, Id be all over this. But asking for an official release of this software in 2012 is like... creating a petition for a caffeine free CHERRY crystal pepsi.

[Liberty]

Also, if you're wondering why you should bother...

Why wouldn't you? It helps EB! and Degica to be inspired to make more of an effort to listen to the fans.
You no longer have to live in shame knowing you've got a pirated copy.
You will legally own it.
It also makes a neat collection item for nostalgia's sake.
You can legally sell a 2k3 game.
You will gain legal usage of the RTP that came with it so that if you want to use it in other RM engines, you can.
You'll be supporting the people who support your hobby - it's almost like you'll be supporting your hobby yourself.
You will no longer be one of the dregs of society who pulls down the rest of your hobby-kin.

Are those enough reasons? Or would you like more?


This really is a big deal, though. How many other companies would take a fan's suggestion and run with it when it comes to an older program? Wanna be part of RM history? Vote yes~

[Moosetroop11]

what they said :p

If I was still using rm2k3 regularly, then maybe, depending on the price.

If they added in some extras and tarted it up... Then I probably would buy it, because I do feel like I owe it something. But not if it was just a legal version of the same maker; it's too late.  If it were to ensure that no rm2k3 bug would ever, ever occur in the legal version, for instance... :p

As for selling the game... Gaah haah hah hah! As Heidegger would have said.

[Liberty]

Wow, sad to see people like this. Not wanting to give back to the engine that gave you so many years of pleasure? It'd probably be pretty cheap and they might even fix the OS compatibility and agility issues.

[Prpl_Mage]

It's not that we don't want to give back. It's more that it's honestly too late. 2003 was 9 years ago, they've released both Xp and VX since then. If they had made an english version or listened to our pleas back in at least 2005 it would've been an entire different thing.
And I honestly don't feel ashamed that I have an unofficial copy, it was and still is the only way we could work with this maker.
And what Moose said, it's also too late trying to make a profit of rpgm2k3 games. There are phone games and engines with far more impressing graphics and possibilities out there now in 2012.

But if they also take care of some issues with the maker it would be worth getting, but just being able to use the "Enter hero name" (which was fixed in one of many great patches made by fans) does not interest me that much.

Also, the OP of the thread over at the rpgm site says numerous times that they are only planning on releasing it in english as an "collection item",  "for nostalgia" and "just owning a legal copy". I don't think that person actually have any power to make this happen.

[Liberty]

Actually, she's in touch with the people who can. She works for them. This is legitimate and will happen if we get enough of the community to stand up and say 'aye'.

[drenrin2120]

Basically what Purp said. This just doesn't do anything for me. Enterbrain would basically have to create script compatibility and change the algorithm system to that like VX for me to really be interested. Otherwise, it's too little too late.

And honestly, ashamed of pirating? lol

[Meiscool]

I'd consider it if they removed the 256 color limit and allowed fading transparencies.

[Archem]

As bad as it may sound, it's just reality. You can't expect people who have had a community for nearly a decade to be fully enthusiastic about a product that is just now showing signs of an official English release this late in the game. It's too late by now. The community's died down a lot, many of us don't use the old RPG Maker anymore, and paying for something that's been "free" for this long is kind of a ridiculous idea. I know it sounds awful, but it's far from unreasonable. Sorry to crush your enthusiasm.

[Ben]

Yeah, that list of reasons... I could tear that list a new butt.

Seriously, my crystal pepsi analogy still stands.


EB did me no favours. In fact, Enterbrains shitty customer service still owes me either 90$ or a free English version of AGM. So no, I owe enterbrain nothing. Ive bought their software before, and was dissatisfied with the customer service I got, so no, **** them.

This is not economically feasable for EB to do. This suggestion is too little too late.
Like a "WENDYS MUST CARRY A BACONATOR WITH TURKEY BACON. FOR COLLECTORS SAKE"

And frankly, I find the idea that you would write a big list about everything we owe EB, when you know nothing to be offensive. Leads me to think you take yourself too seriously.
Like I said, they owe me money. 2k3 is about to be a decade old. I wouldnt pay for a polished turd. If you want to, by all means.


"She works for them" and "She is the campaign director for new developments with EB" are two different things dude. People on the internet talk big, and people like you hear what you want to hear. Its never going to happen.

[Prpl_Mage]

Yeah, this is the moment where I wonder if I should clean up Ben's post a little to make it more chill. But I'll leave it like it is.


Sorry Liberty, the idea of a collectors edition English version of rpgm2k3 isn't that exciting over here. We got the resources and all that stuff but the need for an official copy just don't appeal.

 Hope you have better luck elsewhere!

[Ben]

Im not irate. I just swear a lot

[SaiKar]

Why in the world would they make a legal version of 2k3 at this point? That ship sailed, hit an iceberg, sunk, was salvaged, and has a thriving underwater community of sea urchins living it by now. Work on, like, 2k13 or something that is a super powerful version of 2k3 and maybe we'll talk. Or true 3D. If Minecraft can do randomly generated worlds in 3D, I think it's time RPGMaker tackled the issue.