Dragon World Demo

[DragonBlaze]

 

First, the walkspeed is way too slow. Run systems don't do anything but annoy the player. The walkspeed should be fixed.

Almost every good game lets you walk and run in it, not really in rm2k3, but in profesional games such as final fantasy games, grand theft auto, diablo 2, ect. I don't see how giving a character the choice to walk or run would be annoying.

 

Third, the CBS itself is inferior to Rm2k3's DBS, is chipset based, and very, veeeeeeeeeeeeery slow. I'd suggest either moving to 2k3's DBS, or, if you've just got to have a CBS so you can brag about having a CBS, moving to RmXP.

The DBS sux, and if you've played 50+ games that use the same battle system, I think you would want an alternitive as well. Besides if I was using the dbs, I couldn't use combo skills, or set it up exactly the way I want. In case you haven't realized yet, the dbs dosen't give you much customization. And if you think its slow now with chipsets, it would be twice as slow with pictures. Maby if I can get rid of all the lags I currently have in the battle system, I can move tworeds a pictoral battle system.

 

Second, crawly text combined with autoclose text boxes are also incredibly annoying.

Lol, first your complaining about  having to push a button to run, and now your complaining that you don't have to push a button to go on  :p.


Look, I'm not gonna start using the dbs, and getting rid of all my systems just becuase someone likes using all the defult systems in rm2k3. Most people like to see new things, and like to get away from all the defult stuff. So if you don't like my game just because I use my own systems and gfx, well thats your problem, I'm not gonna switch to the dbs and get rid of half my systems just cuz one person dosen't like custom stuff.

[iishenron]

"Almost every good game lets you walk and run in it, not really in rm2k3, but in profesional games such as final fantasy games, grand theft auto, diablo 2, ect. I don't see how giving a character the choice to walk or run would be annoying. "

Okay. Your normal walk speed is a crawl. Your "run" speed is still a crawl. This is boring, and having to watch my character take 2 minutes to walk a couple of tiles is ridiculous. Even if your run speed was manageable,  I'm almost always going to be using the run feature. Why? Sorry to break this to you, but you're not making a professional game. You're making an amateur game using graphics you've borrowed from other sources and an illegal engine. You're about as far from a professional game as Kansas is from Westphalia, Germany. And don't take it personally; that's true for my game or any other game made with Rm2k3.

"The DBS sux, and if you've played 50+ games that use the same battle system, I think you would want an alternitive as well. Besides if I was using the dbs, I couldn't use combo skills, or set it up exactly the way I want. In case you haven't realized yet, the dbs dosen't give you much customization. And if you think its slow now with chipsets, it would be twice as slow with pictures. Maby if I can get rid of all the lags I currently have in the battle system, I can move tworeds a pictoral battle system."

The DBS is highly customizable for people who take the time to learn what it can really do. There's nothing, nothing in your CBS that can't be done in Rm2k3's DBS. And your CBS is much too slow and cumbersome to even come close to the stability and ease of use of the DBS. Tile based CBS. Yep. And again, if you've just got to have this CBS, you'd be better off doing it in RmXP where you can take advantage of RGSS and code a stable CBS with systems a bit more imaginative than "combo attacks".


"Lol, first your complaining about  having to push a button to run, and now your complaining that you don't have to push a button to go on  :p."

Well, yes. The text speed is pretentious and absolutely ridiculous. I could go grab a coke and watch a TV show in the time it takes for your text to slowly crawl across the screen. And because it's autoclose, I'm forced to wait for it.

"Look, I'm not gonna start using the dbs, and getting rid of all my systems just becuase someone likes using all the defult systems in rm2k3. Most people like to see new things, and like to get away from all the defult stuff. "

As I've said before, your CBS is inferior to the default system in 2k3. There's nothing new in it whatsoever, and your own graphics? Where? I see a bunch of freely available resources in your game.

"So if you don't like my game just because I use my own systems and gfx, well thats your problem, I'm not gonna switch to the dbs and get rid of half my systems just cuz one person dosen't like custom stuff."

-Oh, I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one to find problems with your game as it stands now.

Hey, take it or leave it. My two cents.

[Ace of Spades]

There's nothing new in it whatsoever, and your own graphics? Where? I see a bunch of freely available resources in your game.

Um...?! Lets see you make dragon sprites like those! With all of the poses and everything! Lets see you make a dragon picture like the one he did for the special attacks! Come on, lets see it. All of those are custom. This guy's a friend of mine, and he's shown me some of his other sh!t. He made rmxp dragon graphics. Lets see you do that. As far as I'm concerned, you just like the easy way out and want to use the defaults...pff. Of course the default system is superior, it comes with the damn game maker! I for one, hate the dbs. But that's just me. I'm sure others do too. But just so you know, so far you're the only one who's had those kind of problems with this game. What do you use in your games? Rtp graphics? Ha, gimme a break.  

Edit: Oh, by the way. The battle system actually isn't slow. It's just cuz your computer isn't new enough to where it can support the speed it needs. It was fine for him when he did it. It was a problem for me on my other comp, but on my newer laptop that I got, it's fine. Sorry, guess your computer just sucks...
Secondly: For the walk speed. Maybe he wanted to be realistic. For the average human being, you walk at a slow pace. So why not make it like that in the game? Then, when you run, you go faster. Realness in a game sometimes makes it cool. It's kinda stupid when your main hero can walk as fast as he would as if he was running, don't you think? Oh wait, that was already answered for me...

[DragonBlaze]

Well if the walking speed was that slow, it may have been a bug in the system, becuase the running speed wasn't suppose to be slow, if you reset the game and try playing it again, I'm sure you won't come across that bug again.

As for the dbs being highly customizable? Are you joking? Heres a list of 5 things that my cbs is capable of, that the dbs is not.
-Having your damage be whatever you want, not limited by the number 9999, or whatever is used.
-Limit meters. In the dbs you have a speed meter, mp, meter, and hp meter. But guess what, you can't have a limit meter if your using the other ones, in my battle system you can.
-Combo attacks. I'd like to see that done in the dbs...
-animated monster
-my own layout
-the list goes on and on

Now if you can do all that with the dbs, then your right. If you can't, stop critisizing my battle system   As for the lag, either get a better computer, or wait for a new version of my game that dosen't have a lag, and if you would have read the posts before this, you would know that I allready know of the lags and am currently fixing them. But I doubt you would actually take the time to read a thread before you post in it.


 

Why? Sorry to break this to you, but you're not making a professional game. You're making an amateur game using graphics you've borrowed from other sources and an illegal engine.

Well no ****, no one can make a profesional game with rm2k3 or rmxp or anything, why? cuz the engines are very limited on what they can do scripting and graphics wise. And no where in any of my posts did I say this was a profesional game. However that dosen't mean I'm not going to try to make this game as good as I can. Even a newb would try to make their game as close to a profesional game as they could.

 

and your own graphics? Where? I see a bunch of freely available resources in your game.

Well first off most of those dragons (inlcuding the large sprites) where mede by me. A lot of npcs in there were made by me from other games. And I added my own stuff to some of those tile sets.

 

-Oh, I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one to find problems with your game as it stands now.

If you would have read my first post, you would see a NOTE:. Now if you were smart enough to read that, it said there were probably lots of glitches in the game...


I don't mind being critisized on my game cuz critisizm helps me make my game better. However if your gonna be so stupid about this, bring it up to me in a pm instead of filling this thread with useless garbage.

[AsakuraHao2004]

Damn, iishenron, dont be so hard on him. Of the few people who actually post demos here, this is a good one, with good graphics and systems. You may have room to speak, i dont know, I havent downloaded the games in your sig and played yet.

[drenrin2120]

whoa! and where the hell did you come from, iishenron?

I think you need to back off, if you think the game sux, jsut say so.

[Vicener]

This game cbs is awsome but the text sits is not very impresive is prety simple. But it looks well.

[WIP]

Well now. Here's a short review of what little I could bare to stand of this game.

1) Your intro is horrible. Slow and dull. H A V I N G   M E S S A G E S   C O M E   I N   L I K E   T H I S   I S N ' T   G O O D . Seriously. I can read faster than that. I even know how to hit the button to go to the next page of a message!

2) Okay. Into the game. I'm SOMEBODY on the screen and I need to go retrieve something? Alright then. Oh, figured out who I was.

3) BATTLE TIME. Things look below average. There is no distinguished text in the design at all. It all looks the same. Oh yay. Not only is your menu slow, but it's really slow. I think I'll attack. Surprise. The damage display is slow as well.

4) I guess that was the battle? Nothing special at all about this. Very slow and poorly designed. Nothing the DBS can't do.

5) Back to the map. I walk really slow. I can run a little bit faster, but it's just a hurdle. Instead of going fast all the time, I get to hold down a button for no reason. THEN I can go fast. Makes perfect sense.

6) Turns out I'm the guy with the big red nose.



And there you have it. You're trying to be different for the sake of being different. Instead of offering a solid gameplay experience, you instead fill it up with useless features (hi CBS). Just because it looks different, doesn't make it better or required.

Oh, and don't say it's my computer, either. If I can run World of Warcraft at 1024x768x32, I should be able to play a lag-free game of this calibre. It's creator error.

[Ace of Spades]

Whatever you say iishenron. <.<

[DragonBlaze]

 

And there you have it. You're trying to be different for the sake of being different. Instead of offering a solid gameplay experience, you instead fill it up with useless features (hi CBS). Just because it looks different, doesn't make it better or required.

You idiot, of course I am doing this to make my game differant. Why would anyone want their game to look like every other game made? I made the battle system for the same reason I made all my custom graphics, I could use the all the defult systems, and all the defult graphics, but then it wouldn't be my creation. The battle system may not be as good as the defult battle system, but it is my own work, and is differant than the battle system I have seen and used in hundreds of games.

For the lag, yes, it is your computer. I am sorry to say that but it dosen't lag on my computer, nor on the computers of half the people who played my game. And guess what, my computer is over two years old, and its a laptop, there is no lag, what-so-ever when I play it. So I'm sorry if there was a lag for you, but its kinda hard to detect when the lag dosen't even show on my old computer. IF you were smart enough to read the earlier comments, you would know that I allready knew about the lag from other people who played it, and I am allready planning to fix it.

 

1) Your intro is horrible. Slow and dull. H A V I N G M E S S A G E S C O M E I N L I K E T H I S I S N ' T G O O D . Seriously. I can read faster than that. I even know how to hit the button to go to the next page of a message!

First off, my text has spaces, uses correct capatolization, and is readable. If you're in such a hurry to get through my game, then I don't suggest you even play it. I move it slow because it is important, and if I moved it at regular speeds a lot of people (probably you) would just skim it and miss some of the important details.

Now finally, if you don't have anything constructive to say, stop filling my thread with this junk, and thus wasting my time. Saying my game is "horrable" just because I take the extra effort to make a few extra systems that aren't in every game you play is just stupid. I like negitive feedback, it helps me improve my game, and every other negitive post on every other forum I posted my game at I was glad to get. Unlike you they gave suggestions on how to improve things, instead of just saying "I don't like this, get rid of it and use the defults".

Also note that this topic was rather old, you had no reason to dig it up just so you can try to argue with me. If its an arguement you want, this isn't the right place, and trust me, you're not gonna win this one.

[iishenron]

"Whatever you say iishenron. <.<"

Someone do an IP check. I'm definitely not WIP.

Anyway, I've made my points earlier. Your game does lag, horribly. I'm running a 2.4 Ghz P4 and there's no reason why Morrowind can run fine on my PC, but your l33t game can't. As for the intelligence of me or WIP, we're reporting what we see. If you don't like it, then say "My game is absolutely perfect. I'm going to laugh at all criticism because if you don't think my game is perfect, you're obviously mentally deficient."


"uses correct capatolization" .... uh ... yeah.

Again, this point has been repeated. The text is too slow.

"Now finally, if you don't have anything constructive to say, stop filling my thread with this junk, and thus wasting my time. Saying my game is "horrable" just because I take the extra effort to make a few extra systems that aren't in every game you play is just stupid. "

- Constructive criticism is what we're giving. It'll be worth a whole lot more to you in the long run than all the "OMG THIS GAME R0XoRZ" posts you see here. And there's a reason not every game has the "systems" you've put into your game.

But hey, maybe WIP and I are wrong. Maybe RPG-Advocate who had much the same opinion over at War of the Magi is also wrong. Maybe this game really IS the best game to hit the community in a long time, and I should be taking notes on what to do to make a game that'll stand out and really be great. Maybe I should add a laggy run system and malfunctional CBS to my game. Hey, it worked for you, right?

Yep! So that's obviously what's going on. So, let's do this. GW is currently the largest English Rm2k community. I think it's a crime that you're depriving them of your great game. So go ahead, post it there, and say "iishenron and WIP are idiots because they think this game is less than perfect, but I know you'll enjoy it because I pwn him."  Spread the love.  

[WIP]

I guess my 2 Ghz Athlon XP 2800+ with 512 MB of DDR RAM isn't tough enough for your game.

Also of note, I never said your game lagged. I said it was slow. Slow battles, slow text, slow everything. Speed does not have relevance to lag. Lag is when you are processing too much for RM2k/3's engine and it chops down the framerate. That never happened in this game. You just didn't take any time to make it play fluidly, which is a trait of proper design. Instead of fluidity, you decided to instead draw everything out to ill-effect.

I'll admit I didn't offer any solutions to all the problems this game has. Here are some:
1) Stop trying to innovate and be different unless it makes your game better. It happens to make yours worse.

2) Cut the CBS trash. It offers nothing for your game. The DBS is much more stable and can do more than what you probably think it can.

3) Run button == wasteful button.

4) If you try to use words in "quotes", spell the word correctly.

[Red Fox]

iishenron you have to be WIP.
Becouse:

1) Both complains about the game
2) On the last post you two made there is only 1 minute betwen your posts.

By the way gr8 game DragonBlaze

[Robotam]

Iishenron, if this WIP guy *with his first only two post in this thread* is you or some friend you just called here to attack DB, please stop.
Everyone needs to hear negative opinions too, but saying it in the bad way doesn't make you earn anything. Or does it?
DragonBlaze knows that his game is not the best in the world, but he also knows that it's definatly not the worst.
And for the sake of god, don't only say the negative things with the game!
It's not like you didn't find anything positive or cool in the demo.
If you don't like it fine, but if this WIP guy is you or your friend you told to come here because you didn't want to be alone on the bad side, you've gone too far.
Stop talking like it's the worst game in the world.
And btw, don't start a war in this thread.

[WIP]

I am not iishenron. I don't even know how to pronounce that. Is it so hard to believe ANOTHER person can have an opinion? That was my first post because I just now decided to register.

Either way, I only gave negative feedback because I never found anything good in the game. I value real depth over this flashy immitation. When this game attempts to be solid, maybe it'll get solid feedback?